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crashtest sonny

09-29-2005, 08:36 PM

i did an extensive search before making this post. not sure which forum to create this in, but ive seen some badass skating around beach areas where guys can manuvere so easily. sorta in a way they're carving without lifting up their boards. i wanna setup my board to create a surf like style. i know by loosing the trucks will give you good turning radius..but how do i make my board to do sharp turns kinda like a whip back.

i have a regular board and i know people will say to get a long board for carving but i would like to do ocassional tricks here and there. i currently have baker 55mm wheels which are sorta soft and royal trucks. should i get some risers so i can turn more when the board is higher from the wheels?

i rent the movie 'lords of dogtown' and was watching carefully to which feet to control. i still dont know if you're suppose to use the front to control turns or the back feet. ive seen people do power slide to move but i dont wanna lift up the board. sorry for my noobness. i hope i can get some help. thanks.

Black_Label

09-30-2005, 09:58 PM

I longboard, and I agree, carving is the balls. First off, you don't need a longboard, but it will make it slightly easier. Also it is easily possible to get a longboard that can still be ollied. For example:Diamond Tail (http://www.gravityboard.com/pages/gstore/boards/dt37.html) But if you dont wan't to buy a new board, then you should get some 1/4" risers, and wide trucks. For you're purposes, try Tracker Dart 150mm. You're board will seem a little high, but you'll get used to it. You'll wan't your trucks extremely loose for best results. Also you may want to pick up some big soft wheels, but that doesn't matter as much. I really suggest a new board though, it will make a huge difference. Just ride a longboard and carry you're shortboard in a backpack.

Mr spitfire

11-01-2005, 05:48 PM

WHAt does carving mean i used the search engine and got this

fiend

11-01-2005, 07:18 PM

very loose trucks simple as that

DarkHawk2-2

11-01-2005, 07:57 PM

it takes your own skill to carve, not equipment... like u can have 48mm wheels and some really tight venture lows and u can still carve... find a hill of sorts and carve that biatch. i have a pair of loose thunder his on 52s and i still have hella fun cruisin a hill.

smurf88

11-01-2005, 08:02 PM

To carve sharply, you have to lean your upper body in the direction you want to go and to force the turn, you 'push' the board that direction at the same time.

rustyburrito55

11-01-2005, 09:38 PM

Get wedge risers. They will make your trucks turn more. Different trucks carve better then others too. Trackers turn a lot better then any other trucks I ride. I would recommend those.

DomitianX

11-02-2005, 12:37 PM

The Royals dont turn very well so I am not sure how surfy you will get with them. Try some Indys, Furys or maybe even Trackers.

For the most part trucks that todays flip kids ride are not designed to turn very well so they wont do very well at carving. Sure you can carve with them to point, but with a different truck you can get a much surfier style.

Fire_Freek

11-06-2005, 01:24 AM

...Why is this a sticky?

rankz

11-06-2005, 10:45 AM

Because its helpful

Mr spitfire

11-06-2005, 11:36 AM

To carve sharply, you have to lean your upper body in the direction you want to go and to force the turn, you 'push' the board that direction at the same time.oh is it that thing where you spin around with your hands on the ground like the thing they do in lords of dogtown?

smurf88

11-06-2005, 01:55 PM

oh is it that thing where you spin around with your hands on the ground like the thing they do in lords of dogtown?
No, that's sliding or something. What I mean is make your feet push the board in the direction you want to go.

rustyburrito55

11-06-2005, 11:06 PM

You could also try Carver trucks. They are EXTREMELY surfy feeling. My friend has them and they are amazing. Check out http://www.carverskateboards.com/ and watch the vids. They are really amazing.

DomitianX

11-07-2005, 12:47 PM

You coupld try some Randalls too. They are a turny truck.

rustyburrito55

11-08-2005, 06:54 PM

I got my Trackers to turn a bit more then my Randals. People like them because they are really turny but are really stable at the same time. I would have said Randals before but I think he wants to have a standard street setup but be able to carve good. Randals SUCK for grinding.

crashtest sonny

11-26-2005, 03:51 PM

thanks for all the great info guys. i will look into all these trucks. keep the good info coming.

gmgsci

01-22-2006, 06:21 PM

how do you assemble the Carver Trucks. I bought some put them on my old school board (one tail) but i dont know if i put them on correctly.

rustyburrito55

02-09-2006, 10:42 PM

You want the one with the swivel thing in the front and the normal looking one in the back. They go on like this (http://www.loosetrucks.com/ProductImages/trucks_carver_sigset65.gif). Imagine the front of the board being in the top left corner.

gmgsci

02-09-2006, 10:45 PM

okay thanks, i put them on right.

skaterat

04-10-2006, 07:21 PM

I've got two boards for carving, ditches and reservoirs. My long board has Randalls and they carve great and are real stable at higher speeds. My short set up has Indy 215's. I've got the trucks wedged on both set ups for better turning. I'm using Bulldog Skates Red and Blue Dragons for wheels. Fast with great grip on rough surfaces. I love fast carving.

BLOODY_MOUTH

04-17-2006, 06:02 PM

o.......k
*smiles**shrugges*

BLOODY_MOUTH

04-17-2006, 06:03 PM

hey you guys
*hi**SMILES*
WAS UP

BLOODY_MOUTH

04-17-2006, 06:06 PM

[QUOTE=BLOODY_MOUTH]hey you guys
*hi**SMILES*
WAS UP[/Q
hey does anyone know how to do a switch boneless?

bryce

04-17-2006, 07:14 PM

exactly the same as a normal one just switch, and why post 3 times?

beginnerman04

05-07-2006, 03:42 AM

oh is it that thing where you spin around with your hands on the ground like the thing they do in lords of dogtown?

Thats a bert slide

knasa2

06-10-2006, 02:18 AM

ok guys all of u must not have seen my board ok here it is again http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/5195/p60900032um.jpg
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/8924/p60900164nl.jpg

i made this thing so when there are no good waves outside i cant hit the road and surf whenever i want its the closest thing to surfing other than surfing haha tell me what u think of it guys

rustyburrito55

06-14-2006, 10:59 PM

What's wrong with your trucks? Oh yeah, try to get some ABEC 11 wheels like Flashbacks or something. They rule for carving.

theflyingcheez

06-19-2006, 12:08 AM

oh is it that thing where you spin around with your hands on the ground like the thing they do in lords of dogtown?

no thats probably a bert slide bert is short for bertleman or larry bertleman the person who invented it

Grogler

06-23-2006, 10:35 PM

if you want a surfing feel, why dont you go surfing. I bet no trucks can match to that....

Greatkyle

07-09-2006, 03:36 PM

sweet good tips guys

GrindKing

12-27-2006, 01:43 AM

Ive put some of those thick angled riser pads on my old school board, that and loose trucks. Theres a place over at the beach here where I live that has million dollar homes spaced about two feet apart with like 5 or 6 huge dunes that are paved, you can get so much speed all through em and carve the hole neighborhood up, its a pretty long stretch, like over a minute of straight carvin, takes about thirty minutes or so before the cops show up and ruin the good times, but its still worth it just to ride em.

Flamethrower

06-02-2007, 10:51 PM

oh is it that thing where you spin around with your hands on the ground like the thing they do in lords of dogtown?
That's a bert slide. Carving is just the turning/maneuvering(sp?)
in skateboarding.
EDIT: Oh nevermind..I just noticed how old this thread is..
T_T

SkaterFly

06-03-2007, 07:39 PM

bucksaw87

06-05-2007, 03:19 AM

Whoa, you got like springs in your trucks..
those are some pretty old trucks...the "original" brand trucks are based off of that design, with the torsion spring instead of a standard urethane bushing. in any case, (it's prolly been said before, but whatevs) to carve all you gotta do is have soft wheels, soft bushings, and loose trucks. for wheels, soft=mid 80's duro, bushings, soft=less than low 90's. also, maybe 1/2" of riser wouldn't hurt either so you can get those really deep carves without wheelbite.
or take an old deck and make a shlongboard (shortboard with the trucks mounted on the kicks...lengthens wheelbase, lowers CoG, you can turn better cuz the wheels have more room near the toe and nose), but that's another story.

East Coast

07-11-2007, 03:57 AM

You coupld try some Randalls too. They are a turny truck.
Definately try the Randall R2 180's. I've got 2 longboards with these trucks on them and they are really nice for carving.

bucksaw87

07-16-2007, 05:14 PM

Definately try the Randall R2 180's. I've got 2 longboards with these trucks on them and they are really nice for carving.
:-12:
randals on a shortboard are pretty sketchy...it has been done, some people like it, but most people hate it. if you want to carve a shortboard, your best bet is to get 1/4" risers, soft bushings, loose as hell trucks, and soft wheels

Cmdr_Gabe_E

07-17-2007, 09:05 AM

This thread's pretty sweet. I've gotten a lot of helpful information from it since I'm also thinking of turning my skateboard/shortboard into a carver ;)! Meh, I'm relatively new to the boarding scene too.

if you want to carve a shortboard, your best bet is to get 1/4" risers, soft bushings, loose as hell trucks, and soft wheels

Thanks for the tips, bucksaw87! I'd love to get myself a longboard (Like a landyachtz mummy or sumthin), but alas, I live in the Philippines and skate shops here are uber scarce. I've seen one, but it caters only to shortboards.

Anywayz, would anyone recommend a wider deck for carving? Like an 8 to 9 inch deck? My shoe size is 7.5 btw. Also, does the brand of trucks really matter, or would any brand do for as long as they're loose? I can't find Trackers or Gullwings here in the Philippines, but I've found Indys.

bucksaw87

07-17-2007, 12:02 PM

This thread's pretty sweet. I've gotten a lot of helpful information from it since I'm also thinking of turning my skateboard/shortboard into a carver ;)! Meh, I'm relatively new to the boarding scene too.

Thanks for the tips, bucksaw87! I'd love to get myself a longboard (Like a landyachtz mummy or sumthin), but alas, I live in the Philippines and skate shops here are uber scarce. I've seen one, but it caters only to shortboards.

Anywayz, would anyone recommend a wider deck for carving? Like an 8 to 9 inch deck? My shoe size is 7.5 btw. Also, does the brand of trucks really matter, or would any brand do for as long as they're loose? I can't find Trackers or Gullwings here in the Philippines, but I've found Indys.
indy trucks would be awesome! there's actually a couple of boards that i know of that were designed around indys for carving (earthwing superglider and supercharger)
as far as boards go, a wider board would give you more leverage, so you could carve deeper. BUT, a wide board is not 100% necessary. a lot of guys i know (i have also done this) take a shortboard and redrill the truck mounting holes on the kicktails...what this does is a) adds to the wheelbase, b) lowers the riding platform, and c) allows the deck to flex into carves. and the good thing about doing this with shortboard wheels is that you can run the trucks as loose as you want without wheelbite. i personally would still recommend a 60ish mm, around 80a wheel though so the wheels don't slide out on ya when you're carving.
and for the filipino, check this out (http://www.silverfishlongboarding.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32784&highlight=filipino)
i hope that helped...sounds like your best option would be to get someone to build you a longboard

whew, long post

Cmdr_Gabe_E

07-18-2007, 01:45 PM

Thanks for the link to the Phil-based thread, bucksaw87 :)! I PM'ed the member selling longboards here in the Philippines and it looks like I'll finally get my hands on a longboard for carvin' and pumpin' :)! It's a Ladera 38" Respect Roots...It's not a popular brand, but the board looks pretty sweet ;)

The shlongboard also sounds like a good idea. Who knows? I might actually transform my shortboard into one once I have the time (and the tools and the cash @.@). Once again, thanks for the helpful tips :)!

bucksaw87

07-18-2007, 01:52 PM

Cmdr_Gabe_E

07-22-2007, 11:05 AM

bucksaw87

07-22-2007, 02:01 PM

Ey, bucksaw :)! Just in case I REALLY wanna turn my shortboard into a carver and pumper, I thought up the following setup (All the parts are available in our local skate shop :) ): Indy trucks, Doh-Doh soft bushings, 65mm Krypto Cruise wheels! Then I'll set the Indy's real loose. Sound good?

Btw, I was looking around online, and spotted the Flexdex RT Classic 29. Damn, it looks like on sweeeet ride. Pretty darn expensive though, considering it's over 200$ + 100$ to have it shipped to the Philippines. Dammit x.x!
you'd wanna have some pretty big risers if you're gonna use the krypto wheels...i'd say at least 3/8" just to ensure you won't get wheelbite. but yeah, other than that it's a pretty darn good setup.
were you planning on relocating the trucks at all?

edit:
have you checked www.landyachtz.com ? they ship internationally...i'm not sure what shipping would be though

Cmdr_Gabe_E

07-23-2007, 12:57 AM

oh wow! I just checked out the 29" super slalom complete from gravity, and shipping clocked to 200.00$!!! WTF?! Shipping's more expensive than the board itself! *Sigh* Oh woe is me :(! As for landyachtz, I've actually had my eyes on the Landyachtz Mummy...Looks like a good all-around board for carving, cruising and some slight downhill runs. I bet shipping's gonna be over 100$ though. Ah, the pains of living in SE Asia...

As for relocating the trucks, probably not, for now. I really don't have the tools or expertise for it. I could get a deck to experiment on though ;)!

Cmdr_Gabe_E

07-23-2007, 05:42 AM

Btw, should I get really wide Indy trucks? My board is 7.625" wide...

bucksaw87

07-23-2007, 12:00 PM

Btw, should I get really wide Indy trucks? My board is 7.625" wide...
nah...just keep the axle as flush as possible with the side of the board...if you get 'em too wide, it'll be really hard to turn

tinnmann

09-28-2007, 11:04 PM

What would be a good hardness for carving and sliding? I was thinking 82A but I could be wrong.

bucksaw87

09-28-2007, 11:53 PM

What would be a good hardness for carving and sliding? I was thinking 82A but I could be wrong.
hmm carving AND sliding?
there's gonna be a few more factors than just hardness involved here. what you're asking for is also gonna be reflected in the SHAPE of the wheel. the carving part is gonna require a soft urethane, but the sliding is gonna need a rounded edge so it'll break free better. so i'd recommend something like http://www.milehighskates.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=23&products_id=1423 for what you're trying to do. BUT just be prepared on deep carves, the wheels might slip out a little.

a few more options:
http://www.milehighskates.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=23&products_id=803
any of these http://www.thelongboardstore.com/bennett-c-344.html

for a while there, my slide wheels were the softest wheels in my quiver...BUT they had rounded lips so it made 'em easier to slide. but like i said, be prepared to have wheel slippage during deep, hard carves

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