Pac Sun sucks.

[Griptape Flip]

Ever been there? My girlfriend insisted on dragging me to the mall today, and I was dragged into it. My first thought, total repulsion. Bunch of little kids stocking up on 90/100 dollar shoes, and whining at their parents. They idiot kids complaning for the Element shirts/hoodies, and spending hundreds on apparel. I was shocked, it was just bad. There was the sounds of half-retarded girls mindlessly awwmaygawding every expensive shoe in there. You know, the idiots who buy skate shoes because it's what's "Cool." If you want to keep your sanity, stay away from that hell hole, it is just...just bad.

[CinciSkater2011]

Yeah. It used to be good, they actually were like a skateshop, decks, bearings, wheels, the whole she-bang. But then stupid "preps" get the idea "skater" is cool. Pacific Sunwear is then invaded by "preppies", Pac Sun cashes in, ditches the extra supply (decks and all that goos shtuff), and "preps" then decide it's finally safe to shop there all the time now the "scary kids" were gone, and a cool store was lost.

[Griptape Flip]

That's the way it works, eh? Shit seriously happens.

[danielb]

really?^^^ I had no idea about that I used to like it when I justed starrted off skating but after about a couple of months I was like im not going to spend 100 on a stupid bam hoodie or something.

[CinciSkater2011]

Yeah, it used to be like a skateshop chain, kinda like Zumiez. I got a few completes there back in the day, and skated the mall. ;)

[danielb]

haha cool, I thought it was always like that.

[Griptape Flip]

Lol, the mall 'round here sucks, skate stoppers everywhere, and shitty chalky ledges. The only good thing is a killer gap. I don't go there much, it's pretty stupid. The mall is like the main attraction for morons around here, it's pretty stupid.

[CinciSkater2011]

Lol, I meant skated INSIDE the mall. Marble everywhere.

[Griptape Flip]

Lol, that'd be pretty tight. It'd be ****ing insane on some of the shit there. Marble = Sexy goodness.

[CinciSkater2011]

Yeah. I skated about 30 minutes once, before a mall cop caught me.

Mall cops taking away MY marble.

[Fight!Skater]

i hate pacsun bunch of *****s buying overpriced shit!

[CinciSkater2011]

Which is what we're saying! I hate them. I snuck my board into the mall once, told a guy holding a HUGE Pac Sun bag to ollie. He couldn't. So I said, "Okay, maybe you're just starting. But even beginners know this, Who are the Z-Boys?". He replied with, "Uh...A new rap group dawg?" I then slapped him backhand.

[danielb]

hahaha, great story yea and its not even great shoes or clothes

[CinciSkater2011]

Yeah, I walked in once to see if the workers were even cool. I asked this dude, decked out in AWS and Volcom crap if he'd been to the Skateplaza recently. (I live near Kettering) He said "Ooh, I think we just got those in, what size are you?" I love making fools out of poseurs.

[danielb]

wow, that's really really sad. And I didn't know they sold AWS stuff at pac-sun. But they are pretty cool where I live, haven't asked them anything like that though.

[CinciSkater2011]

They don't sell AWS stuff. He obviously went somewhere and got it to attract "skater customers".

[danielb]

yea, I rember thats where I got my first pair of skate shoes, which at the time I thought were great, adio hamiltons. But skating them 6 months later I realized they suck and were a total waste of 65-70 dollars

[Griptape Flip]

Pretty much, it's super bullshit. Find the kid who doesn't know who the Z-boys are, and kill him..please. =D

[Fight!Skater]

Pretty much, it's super bullshit. Find the kid who doesn't know who the Z-boys are, and kill him..please. =D
lol
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[Fenrisulfr]

Pac Sun is no different than any other big name store, really. Just overpriced stuff where you pay for a name instead of quality.

[Fight!Skater]

Pac Sun is no different than any other big name store, really. Just overpriced stuff where you pay for a name instead of quality.
i disagree, you go to marshalls and can get the shirts for 3 times less and they are a bigger name than pac sun

[skateblank714]

i buy my shit in mervyns or target, the only clothe that i have that are related to skating, i either got for free , or from someone else, i think ive only bought skate shoes,

hey cinciskater, what would you have said if that guy that you asked to ollie would have actually done it? i would have felt like a moron, im surprised he even knew what an ollie was

[AlmostJeff]

I got one or two pairs of shoes from there before than I relized that they suck so I stopped.

[CinciSkater2011]

hey cinciskater, what would you have said if that guy that you asked to ollie would have actually done it? i would have felt like a moron, im surprised he even knew what an ollie was
The point is, he didn't. He had an American Eagle hat, Abercrombie shorts, and "Hollister" printed huge on his pant leg. And he was wearing those Etnies with the sideways e's. Do you think he had a chance?

[skateblank714]

you didnt mention the hollister and abercrombie part, and no im pretty sure he wouldnt have been able to do it, but im just saying what would you say if he had been able to ollie, and a pretty decent ollie also, actually this is a pretty stupid question, id probably be like, cool, and walk away

[CinciSkater2011]

I'd be like, what's a primo? He may have studied from past experiences of getting showed up.

[smurf88]

I get all my skate clothes from Marshalls. They're almost always in the closeout section.

[casanova]

you don't like pacsun, don't go there, don't buy shit there. don't talk about it.ive been in it alot, 2 of my friends used to work there. one i knew from making out with her the whole homecoming after party, and the other is a kid in a band from m y town. honestly i used to buy the artos there, they last forever. and i dont give a **** what people say 'oph you buy at pacsun, *****' i can atleast be like oh yea i forgot, i can get a ride 45 mins to the shop i film for every ****ing day i need a new pair of shoes right?

[CinciSkater2011]

...Sorry to sound stupid, but if you film for a shop, why not support them by buying shoes there?

[rustyburrito55]

Maybe they don't have what he likes?

[CinciSkater2011]

Good point. I'm not saying EVERYONE that shops there is a *****, just the majority are.

[jusfuris]

you know you guys are not helping with the progression of skating. calling people *****s is the DUMBEST thing ever. why can they not just like that shirt, or those shoes? (they are the most comfortable type of shoes ive ever worn) i mean you wouldnt walk up to a guy with an NFL shirt/jersey on and be like "hey your a *****! you dont play in the NFL!"

what if they just like skateboarding, like watching it on the X-Games and what not? they can't show their appreciation for the sport/lifestyle? just cause they cant skate doesnt mean they cant wear the clothes.

seriously, once you guys get to your sophmore year in high school you will NEVER hear the word ***** again. im in my sophmore year of college and havent heard it since middle school.

DONT CALL PEOPLE *****S! THERES NO REASON FOR THAT!

[Griptape Flip]

Alrighty, what about the kids who say they can best you in a game of skate, and when they get on the board fall over. What about all the people wearing skate shoes/shirts who don't skate, but do stupid shit and give skaters a bad name. I'm not saying everyone who shops there is a *****, I have not said it once. I have not even said *****, if you will read my former statement. And yes, there is a reason to hate kids who try to act like skaters, but do not skate. These are the types of kids who think they're hot shit because they wear a pair of shoes. If they want to support the "Lifestyle" by wearing skater clothes, that's pretty stupid too. How many people do you know that wear a pair of DC's, and an Element hoodie, who say they don't skate,but wear the clothes just support the sport? I haven't met one, not a single one. Let me ask you something, how are these people "Helping with the progression of skating?" They're not. They are the idiots who give skaters a bad name, because they do stupid crap and we get blamed. I have no grudges, and i'm not mad, but I got an oppinion. =D

[Kick_Push_Coast]

yo pacsun is alright. im not gonna hate on the store , but i personally never shop there. ive seen the shit inside there but id rather by skating materials somewhere else. i like going to the copelands at the mall cuz they have lots of clearance sales. 50% off on all skating stuff. i got 2 pairs of lakais and ipaths there. then i bought a complete blank. i also like buying regular white shirts at champs. 5 plain white shirts for 19.99. im a cheap guy but so wut?

[Voughtie182]

ive been there nothing fits and is too expensive im only 12 though turning 13 this summer

[jusfuris]

i do know a few friends who wear those clothes and shoes and will admit to anyone that they do not skate. im not saying you said ***** ever, im talking about the people who do use that term.

i totally get you on the part of if theyre saying they skate awesome and then cant even roll on a board. but to see someone youve never met and call them a ***** because they wear abercrombie? thats just dumb i mean really.

im not trying to start any arguments, but theres just no reason to put people down.

i didnt say they WERE supporting the sport. but if someone calls someone else a ***** they are not helping anything. i mean its people like this that make it seem like you cant just be starting out. its either you skate good, or your a *****. ive heard people calling other skaters *****s just because they couldnt do anything but ollie, if even that.

seriously though, im not trying to fight. but calling others *****s makes some people not even want to start for fear of being laughed at and called a *****

[Kick_Push_Coast]

a couple of my childhood friends could have been skaters. they could have been great skaters. 6 years ago me and my friends started skateboarding in our neighborhood. we all lived in one neighborhood. we skated everyday out on the street helping each other out and playing skate with each other. after about 2 and a half months of skating, we decided to go to the four set at the old alvarado park. there were so many people at the park who were watching us skateboard. while we were there, several "gangsters" came up to us and called us *****s and laughed at us whenever we fell. they jacked our money and wrote on our boarders with a marker that said "lil bitches." i dont understand why these guys even had the nerve of doing this to 9 and 10 year olds. after this 5 of my childhood friends jus stopped skateboarding.

[jusfuris]

thats exactly what im talking about. see thats how it does not help in the progression of the sport. i cant believe those guys did that to you and your friends! that kind of thing is just disgusting!

[Griptape Flip]

I agree, people like that need to be shot/beat. See, we're not trying to disaude young skaters from learning, we're just sick of morons. You know, the people who have mission, ruin skating, and the image of skaters. Just today, I was skating AB, and some lady pulled up, and started giving me and my mates a hard time. I dunno how old she was, maybe her 20's. But she said that skaters destroy everything, and that we should be ashamed of ourselves. I was pretty much shocked. I asked her where she had got this oppinion, and she said, and I quote: "I see damn skaters everyday, the break everything, haven't you seen the movies." It was pretty funny, but sort of sad. This lady was pretty much brainwashed by Hollywood that all skaters are junkies who'd destroy everything they could. That pretty much proves that alot of people can be swayed by what a few people do. So, if they see a couple kids with their cheapo Element decks, keying a car, they're gonna assume that all skaters are like that. And I know you're not trying to argue, you're a pretty cool dude. People who give skaters a bad name disgust me, and people who pick on kids disgust me. But, kids who give skating a bad name, and try to screw over the industry make me sick. I love good discussions. =D And Kick Push Coast, if you ever see those guys again..beat them..with a rock or something. =P

[jusfuris]

yeah i see your point on that. i just wish "*****" was slung around a little less often. if your only talking about the people that do things like key up cars and vandalize anything they can then by all means put them down! cause they do give skaters a bad name.

id just prefer kids to not call other kids in school a *****, ya know? that just mean and can really hurt some kids feelings. and in turn gives skaters a bad name in the fact that it makes us look like all we do is put people that arent like us down. cause for the most part we already LOOK (to everyone else) like we dont like "jocks", "preps", or the like. so we dont need to go around making it look like we dont like people that look like us too.

i love a good discussion too. and you actually seem pretty cool too. made me think a little more on my previous distase for all that use the word *****.

[Kick_Push_Coast]

that incident 6 years ago makes me mad even till this day man. those kids were great. we had so much fun. skating in the summer. started in morning and didnt stop till after dark. the reason some of my friends stopped was because of fear. they loved skateboarding but they couldnt skate because of fear. there are so many thugs and gangsters around here that always fuk with skaters. jacking us and threatening to stab us if we dont hand over the cash. throw rocks at us while passing by and kicking the side of the board while we go by them. we cant fight back because they greatly out number us. 3/4's of my friends got sick and tired of shit like this so they jus stopped. society forced them to quit.

[Zer0 Her0]

I shop there...Occasionaly. Only for shoes (Only place in my small town with skateshoes) and I get jeans there occasionaly when they have a sale.

None of that Volcom shit for me. >_>

[JesusRodeAFlip]

I wear abercrombie when i skate. Don't be hatin. People who think they can tell a skater by their clothes are way too materialistic and narrow minded. And i agree with Jusfuris, just cuz someone is decked out with skate brand gear doesn't even mean they want you to think they skate. I've worn vans all my life, even before i knew what a skateboard was. Was i a *****? *****s are people who get cocky, and don't skate for themselves. They don't have to be bad at skating either. In fact, i concider Bam a *****, even though it's common knowledge that he is an incredible skater. A ***** is someone who no-longer skates for their own enjoyment. That or brags about how good they are, and then can't do anything.

[fallensk8er345]

I had no clue pac-sun was a real "skateshop" at one time, it sucks its not anymore. =(

[CinciSkater2011]

Alrighty, what about the kids who say they can best you in a game of skate, and when they get on the board fall over. What about all the people wearing skate shoes/shirts who don't skate, but do stupid shit and give skaters a bad name. I'm not saying everyone who shops there is a *****, I have not said it once. I have not even said *****, if you will read my former statement. And yes, there is a reason to hate kids who try to act like skaters, but do not skate. These are the types of kids who think they're hot shit because they wear a pair of shoes. If they want to support the "Lifestyle" by wearing skater clothes, that's pretty stupid too. How many people do you know that wear a pair of DC's, and an Element hoodie, who say they don't skate,but wear the clothes just support the sport? I haven't met one, not a single one. Let me ask you something, how are these people "Helping with the progression of skating?" They're not. They are the idiots who give skaters a bad name, because they do stupid crap and we get blamed. I have no grudges, and i'm not mad, but I got an oppinion. =D
That's what I mean. I can't even skate in my neighborhood anymore because some guy (who doesn't skate or support it, he just think s the chicks like skater) wearing Element and DC everything tagged IN BROAD DAYLIGHT, and since he was wearing that, he got skating banned. I guess I was just kind of angry last night and I guess I said some harsh things. If I offended anyone, I'm sorry.

[Zerosk8er90]

Yeah, I walked in once to see if the workers were even cool. I asked this dude, decked out in AWS and Volcom crap if he'd been to the Skateplaza recently. (I live near Kettering) He said "Ooh, I think we just got those in, what size are you?" I love making fools out of poseurs.
Damn you. I would love to live near the skateplaza :(

But yea, PacSun is overpriced.But I wouln't call people who shop there are *****s.

And to the whole Prep thing. There are a couple of preppy skateboarders here that absolutely rip around here. DOn't Judge a book by its cover is all I'm saying.

[CinciSkater2011]

Haha, it's great, but it's like an hour drive. I also live 2 and a half hours from Louisville Park which is also amazing.


But now, if my neighbors even see my board in the garage, or I skate in my driveway, they call the cops.


EDIT-About the prep stuff, notice I put "" around it, because I don't call anyone prep, but it is a common title, and some people even call themselves that where I live.

[casanova]

...Sorry to sound stupid, but if you film for a shop, why not support them by buying shoes there?
i do usually, ill either order them from their mailorder or their site. but i only get a discount if i come in not online. i did forget to put in that i only used to buy shoes from pac sun when i didnt film for the shop

[CinciSkater2011]

Ok, I was just confused there. :)

[Poser Park]

I went into a Pac-Sun once with a couple of friends. I'm lucky to be alive...

Actually, it wasn't really that bad. Yeah, the stuff is over-priced and such. But I didn't see any Goths or "weird" people. I even almost bought a couple of t-shirts.

[CinciSkater2011]

Yeah but did you see the almost Abercrombie like male models on the wall?

eww...

And by the way, why do the majority of skaters hate popular people? In my school, everyone hates jocks they aren't popular, but I get along with the popular people, like gangstas (hate their music, but some are just ******* hilarious) and "preps". Idon't fall into either of these categories but am friends with many of each type.

[jusfuris]

dang, this thread has gotten very cool! lots of discussion. im happy to know not all of you throw around phrases like "*****" and "prep" and all those so brashly. its not good to label people just cause they wear certain clothes.

actually i love pac-sun. almost all my clothes come from there. BUT the pac-sun where i live as NO models on the walls, and is actually not bad priced at all. though i only buy stuff when they send me a $25 off of a $50 purchase and the stuff is on sale, so by that time its actually all quite cheap.

but i did not ever know it used to be a real skate shop. that would be cool if theyd start selling boards and all that again

[CinciSkater2011]

Yeah, let people be who they wanna be, wear what they wanna wear, and be label-less.

[jusfuris]

Yeah, let people be who they wanna be, wear what they wanna wear, and be label-less.


your a good man

[dantheman15]

and all they sell is those brand new jeans with rips in them i hate those y would i buy jeans with holes in them.........i wouldent

[jusfuris]

and all they sell is those brand new jeans with rips in them i hate those y would i buy jeans with holes in them.........i wouldent

thats not all they sell, cause i will NOT buy those jeans. they sell plenty that arent ripped

[skateblank714]

and all they sell is those brand new jeans with rips in them i hate those y would i buy jeans with holes in them.........i wouldent

yeah and their like 50 bucks or something, just for a pair of jeans, only people that buy those are people that like the look but wouldnt be able to rip their jeans on their own, cuz that would implicate hurting themselves

[Enjoi Flatland]

All my jeans get ripped in the same places from having the camera in my pocket while I'm skating and falling on my right knee. One day this kid asked me if I bought my jeans ripped and I gave him the weirdest look and said, "No way in hell."

[ZooY0rkduDe30]

I agree Pac Sun sucks now, they were good but now i walk in there and there are like 50 year people workin behind the desk.

[skidmark]

Haha, dont disown me now...But I dont even wear skate clothes, I do my shopping at Abercrombie, Areopostale, Hollister, ect. I dont wear skate clothes because its like its become a "nessecity" to wear them if you skate...So I want to be different from everyone... Well anyways, later.

[CinciSkater2011]

*eye twitches* It's okay...We still love you. But my question is, why not just get clothes at Marshall's or Goodwill. I don't see why people like them stores...

[elmersglue]

Yea it really bugs me to. I wore my skateboarding shoes to school last week, and a kid comes up to me and is like why r u wearing those shoes u dont even skate! and im like yes i do. I HATE IT. why cant you just wear skateboarding shoes without anyone trying to think that your trying to be cool??? I

[ZooY0rkduDe30]

Thats what it was like at my old school, i was better than half of the kids that skated but they thought just cause i didnt wear Volcom, Hurley, and etc. they thought "I" was the *****. They were all rich and little cry babies when they fell on thier asses skatin.

[smurf88]

Yeah, why people find it so hard to believe that you ride on a piece of wood and do tricks on it?

[Refuse]

The point is, he didn't. He had an American Eagle hat, Abercrombie shorts, and "Hollister" printed huge on his pant leg. And he was wearing those Etnies with the sideways e's. Do you think he had a chance?
OH GOD! Not those damned Etnies! SO MANY KIDS HERE WEAR THEM! They cry when they get a tiny bit of dirt on them. It's so bloody pathetic. I just get a new pair of shoes and start skating on them. Within an hour they have dirt and marks all over em'. I like it that way. Being careful and not doing anything with new shit SUCKS! But those sideways e's Etnies needa die...I thought it was just my school that had kids wearing those kinds of clothes...Don't you just love the attention you get when these preps talk shit about your shoes or your jeans? :-1: I just smile and skate off.

[wowwhatsthat]

pac sun is an hour and a half drive from me i dont shop there for that one reason who cares where you buy clothes from as long as you have clothes and arent naked (unless youre a girl and is hot)

[skidmark]

Yea I dont even bother wearing the "clothes" anymore, because of the ***** flying around like it is now...There are about 5-6 big (good) skaters at our school, one is sponsered and hes into that whole emo crap you know chick pants and crap and Im just as good as he is, but yet we still get called ***** by the freshmen in our high school...And if you have your hair cut short and you wear the Hollister clothes you get a lot more looks when you go places...Yea he is actually skating a contest in North Carolina with some pro skaters...Its going to be so cool...One thing I miss about skate clothes is the durability to them, man they seemed industructable...

[fiend]

tj max, Savers thriftshop yeeehaw!

[skidmark]

Hahah yea, Ive found a way to shut them up to...Get them to play a game of skate against you, then bust out a nollie lazer flip (if you can do them) and they will go "I gotta go do something" every time...Then they quit throwing the word around. It works...

[grindqueen]

Two words, Rip Off.

[Breene]

I sometimes buy some clothes there when i dont feel like ordering offline... nobody else carries anything around here but i usually only buy shoes and once in a while some jeans or a hoodie.

[just skate dude]

hate preps that buy things to be the "in people"\

[dantheman15]

couldent of sed it better my self ^^

[Breene]

I laugh when i see people who obviously have never touched a skateboard in their lives walking past me wearing etnies and an independant shirt. Its pathetic...

[unclemag]

Its a shame Skateboarding has come to this. I'm a skateboarder. I don't wear $80 Independant hoodies, or a $30 Zero beenie, or any of that stereotypical bullshit. You can always spot a seasoned skateboarder - Just go to the skatepark and look for somone NOT wearing anything from Pac Sun. Maybe I have a love for skateboarding that 90% of these idiots don't. When I want to skate, I grab my board and skate. People shouldn't have to stop at Pac Sun and spend a half hour wondering which beenie would look cool on them in 90 degree weather, as they fall trying to stand on thier skateboard.

[Skatefreak1001]

i went to pac sun yesterday..got new circas..my adios were ripped..the heel was comin out,the front toes were ripped.....and i saw some like 9 year-old wanting a whole bunch of shirts..and i was thinkin live to skate,not skate to live.

[Poser Park]

You know what bugs me? ...do you really wanna know?

It's the kids that go around saying "Skate for life", "Skating is my life", "Skate to Live" and other bullcrap like that. We have a few posters on here that are guilty of this.

Why do people have to take it to the extreme? It's a hobby...and just a hobby. Skating is not your life...it's something you do in your spare time. It's nothing more than that.

"Skate to live"...I hope whoever came up with this little slogan is dead. It's stupid...

Sorry...I'm having a bad day...and seeing the signature obove me kinda pushed me over the edge.

[Ramp]