C O P E
02-27-2006, 11:33 AM
There are really now specific lens's for your camera.. it all depends on ur thread sizes... you can get step up or step down rings for diff fisheyes to fit diff threads. Most fisheyes for 1 chips come in a 37mm screw.
(andy slack,houston texas)
first off you need to know the difference between a fisheye and a wide angle, i see this alot, kids saying they will get a wide angle to film skating, overall it can be a good thing but it is not nearly as neccessary as a fisheye. a wide angle only pulls the poing of view of your camera compared to a fisheye which does the same, much much more than a wide angle, AND ususally has barrell distortion causing tricks to look bigger, rails longer, and you the better filming. in general a wideangle wont usually be used to film lines but they are nice to have if you like shooting long lens and you can just barely not get further away becasue they will not barrell distort and they will look like normal long lens shots for the first part, so pretty much wideangle wont' get far enough for filming lines so you'll prolly wanna go with a fish first.
alright, first thing you need to do is look at the front of your camera and find a circle O with a cross \ thru it. look at the number right next to it and that is your lens threads size, on alot of 1 chippers its 37, on the vx1k i belive its 52 and on the vx2k and 2100 its 58 but look and see to make sure so you don't buy a lens that wont' fit on
for the 1 chippers, if you lens mounts are 37mm the best lens possible you can get is the century baby death, its about 350 bux or you can lurk the SP classified or ebay and try to get it cheaper, its as wide as a century normal death mk2 and with some spacers can be even wider, you wont' lose any quality with a century lens becasue they are made out of some crystal glass formula, but you will pay for it in dollars, they are much more expensive than your alternatives, some much cheaper alternatives, the companies you'll most wanna look at are raynox and kenko, look up lenses by them on adorama and see if they are your thread size, there will be some, such as the clip on raynox i bieve it is called the q303 or something around that so look for that but you can't go wrong with a kenko .43, i never owned that set up but i used a 1 chip with a kenko and it was really good, those lenses will run you about 40 bux or so depending on where you get it and are definaltly a good choice especially if you plan on upgrading to a 3 chip sometime and are just needing a fisheye to wait it out and not spend 300+ on the century.
for the 3 chippers your best bet is the "death lens" century's .3x fisheye for the larger cameras. if you have a vx1k you'll watn the mki, which are about 700+, make sure you get bayonet style tho cuz the mki screw is notoriously sucky. for the vx2k and vx2100 you'll want the mkii, mki int., or a self modded mki, i have mkii and love it, but for those who want the extra width, you may want to mod a mki. the mkii is not as wide as the vx1's mki but it has no vig so if that matters to you you may consider the mkii, the mki int does not ahve vig either, but it is 950 dollars, 250 more than the 700 dollar mkii and is minimally wider, some say it is worth it becasue of the hanus mkii red flares but i disagree, whatever tho, if your loaded get a mki int, if your strapplin get the mkii. but...if you really dont' care to save up that much you can get a raynox mk3000 for around 100+ bux, they are also .3x but not as wide as a mkii and not nearly as wide as a mki, you can widen it tho (check top section about it) and makes it slightly wider than a mkii, but it has vig. this is a great altenative but...you will be losing quality and why lose any quality whatsover with an expensive camera? you shouldn't, some argue its unnoticabel, i disagree, whatever, also make sure you get bayonet in any of these lenses cuz the weight of them can break your cam if you put to much stress on the vx' threads
for the hd camera and dvx's its the same deal, mkii from century, just look them up on adorama
for any of the (threaded) lenses mentioned above you can buy step up and down rings to make it fit your threads, so a 37mm could fit on a 29 if needed and a 52 on a 46 and so on, they go up or down, sometimes they even make your lens wider givng space between the cam and lens, you can just by spacers for that tho if tis alardy the right size
alright, tahts basic, just thought it may help someone out, again, i ahvn't used all those setups and i'm just going off what i belvie i've read so if i made a mistake (or 2, or 3) someone will surely correct them in this tread, enjoy your setup
(andy slack,houston texas)
first off you need to know the difference between a fisheye and a wide angle, i see this alot, kids saying they will get a wide angle to film skating, overall it can be a good thing but it is not nearly as neccessary as a fisheye. a wide angle only pulls the poing of view of your camera compared to a fisheye which does the same, much much more than a wide angle, AND ususally has barrell distortion causing tricks to look bigger, rails longer, and you the better filming. in general a wideangle wont usually be used to film lines but they are nice to have if you like shooting long lens and you can just barely not get further away becasue they will not barrell distort and they will look like normal long lens shots for the first part, so pretty much wideangle wont' get far enough for filming lines so you'll prolly wanna go with a fish first.
alright, first thing you need to do is look at the front of your camera and find a circle O with a cross \ thru it. look at the number right next to it and that is your lens threads size, on alot of 1 chippers its 37, on the vx1k i belive its 52 and on the vx2k and 2100 its 58 but look and see to make sure so you don't buy a lens that wont' fit on
for the 1 chippers, if you lens mounts are 37mm the best lens possible you can get is the century baby death, its about 350 bux or you can lurk the SP classified or ebay and try to get it cheaper, its as wide as a century normal death mk2 and with some spacers can be even wider, you wont' lose any quality with a century lens becasue they are made out of some crystal glass formula, but you will pay for it in dollars, they are much more expensive than your alternatives, some much cheaper alternatives, the companies you'll most wanna look at are raynox and kenko, look up lenses by them on adorama and see if they are your thread size, there will be some, such as the clip on raynox i bieve it is called the q303 or something around that so look for that but you can't go wrong with a kenko .43, i never owned that set up but i used a 1 chip with a kenko and it was really good, those lenses will run you about 40 bux or so depending on where you get it and are definaltly a good choice especially if you plan on upgrading to a 3 chip sometime and are just needing a fisheye to wait it out and not spend 300+ on the century.
for the 3 chippers your best bet is the "death lens" century's .3x fisheye for the larger cameras. if you have a vx1k you'll watn the mki, which are about 700+, make sure you get bayonet style tho cuz the mki screw is notoriously sucky. for the vx2k and vx2100 you'll want the mkii, mki int., or a self modded mki, i have mkii and love it, but for those who want the extra width, you may want to mod a mki. the mkii is not as wide as the vx1's mki but it has no vig so if that matters to you you may consider the mkii, the mki int does not ahve vig either, but it is 950 dollars, 250 more than the 700 dollar mkii and is minimally wider, some say it is worth it becasue of the hanus mkii red flares but i disagree, whatever tho, if your loaded get a mki int, if your strapplin get the mkii. but...if you really dont' care to save up that much you can get a raynox mk3000 for around 100+ bux, they are also .3x but not as wide as a mkii and not nearly as wide as a mki, you can widen it tho (check top section about it) and makes it slightly wider than a mkii, but it has vig. this is a great altenative but...you will be losing quality and why lose any quality whatsover with an expensive camera? you shouldn't, some argue its unnoticabel, i disagree, whatever, also make sure you get bayonet in any of these lenses cuz the weight of them can break your cam if you put to much stress on the vx' threads
for the hd camera and dvx's its the same deal, mkii from century, just look them up on adorama
for any of the (threaded) lenses mentioned above you can buy step up and down rings to make it fit your threads, so a 37mm could fit on a 29 if needed and a 52 on a 46 and so on, they go up or down, sometimes they even make your lens wider givng space between the cam and lens, you can just by spacers for that tho if tis alardy the right size
alright, tahts basic, just thought it may help someone out, again, i ahvn't used all those setups and i'm just going off what i belvie i've read so if i made a mistake (or 2, or 3) someone will surely correct them in this tread, enjoy your setup