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skaterat
03-16-2007, 09:19 PM
Advice to Young Men from an Old Man
1. Don’t pick on the weak. It’s immoral. Don’t antagonize the strong without cause, its stupid.
2. Don’t hate women. It’s a waste of time
3. Invest in yourself. Material things come to those that have self actualized.
4. Get in a fistfight, even if you are going to lose.
5. As a former Marine, take it from me. Don’t join the military, unless you want to risk getting your balls blown off to secure other people’s economic or political interests.
6. If something has a direct benefit to an individual or a class of people, and a theoretical, abstract, or amorphous benefit to everybody else, realize that the proponent’s intentions are to benefit the former, not the latter, no matter what bullshit they try to feed you.
7. Don’t be a Republican. They are self-dealing crooks with no sense of honor or patriotism to their fellow citizens. If you must be a Republican, don’t be a “conservative.” They are whining, bitching, complaining, simple-minded self-righteous idiots who think they’re perpetual victims. Listen to talk radio for a while, you’ll see what I mean.
8. Don’t take proffered advice without a critical analysis. 90% of all advice is intended to benefit the proponent, not the recipient. Actually, the number is probably closer to 97%, but I don’t want to come off as cynical.
9. You’ll spend your entire life listening to people tell you how much you owe them. You don’t owe the vast majority of people shit.
10. Don’t undermine your fellow young men. Mentor the young men that come after you. Society recognizes that you have the potential to be the most power force in society. It scares them. Society does not find young men sympathetic. They are afraid of you, both individually and collectively. Law enforcement’s primary purpose is to suppress you.
11. As a young man, you’re on your own. Society divides and conquers. Unlike women who have advocates looking out for them (NOW, Women’s Study Departments, government, non-profit organizations, political advocacy groups) almost no one is looking out for you.
12. Young men provide the genius and muscle by which our society thrives. Look at the Silicone Valley. By in large, it was not old men or women that created the revolution we live. Realize that society steals your contributions, secures it with our intellectual property laws, and then takes credit and the rewards where none is due.
13. Know that few people have your best interests at heart. Your mother does. Your father probably does (if he stuck around). Your siblings are on your side. Everybody else worries about themselves.
14. Don’t be afraid to tell people to “**** off” when need be. It is an important skill to acquire. As they say, speak your piece, even if your voice shakes.
15. Acquire empathy, good interpersonal skills, and confidence. Learn to read body language and non-verbal communication. Don’t just concentrate on your vocational or technical skills, or you’ll find your wife ****ing somebody else.
16. Keep fit.
17. Don’t speak ill of your wife/girlfriend. Back her up against the world, even if she’s wrong. She should know that you have her back. When she needs your help, give it. She should know that you’ll take her part.
18. Don’t cheat on your wife/girlfriend. If you must cheat, don’t humiliate her. Don’t risk having your transgressions come back to her or her friends. Don’t do it where you live. Don’t do it with people in your social circle. Don’t shit in your own back yard.
19. If your girlfriend doesn’t make you feel good about yourself and bring joy to your life, fire her. That’s what girlfriends are for.
20. Don’t bother with “emotional affairs.” They are just a vehicle for women to flirt and have someone make them feel good about themselves. That’s the part of a relationship they want. For you it is a lot of work and investment in time. If they are having an emotional affair with you, they’re probably ****ing someone else.
21. Becoming a woman’s friend and confidant is not going to get you into an intimate relationship. If you haven’t gotten the girl within a reasonably short period of time, chances are you won’t ever get her. She’ll end up confiding to you about the sexual adventures she’s having with someone else.
22. Have and nurture friendships with women.
23. Realize that love is a numbers game. Guys fall in love easily. You’re going to see some girl and feel like you’ll die if you don’t get her. If she rejects you, move on to the next one. It’s her loss.
24. Don’t be an internet troll. Got out and live life. There is not a cadre of beautiful women advertising on Craigslist to have NSA sex with you. Beautiful women don’t need to advertise. The websites that advertise with attractive women’s photos and claims of loneliness are baloney. All they want is your money and your personal information so that they can market to you. The posts on Craigslist by young “women” seeking NSA sex, and asking for a picture are just a bunch of gay troll pic collectors. This is especially true if the post uses common gay lexicon like “hole” as in “**** my hole” or seeks “masculine” men, or uses the word cock (except in the context of “Don’t send a cock shot.”) There are women on Craigslist. They are easily recognizable by their 2-5 paragraph postings. Most are in their 30's or older.
25. When you become a man in full, know that people will get in your way. People who are attracted to you will somehow manage to step in your path. Gay guys will give you “the look.” Old people will somehow stumble in front of you at the worst time. Don’t get frustrated. Just step aside and go about your business. Know that these are passive aggressive methods to get you to acknowledge their existence.
26. Don’t gay bash. Don’t mentally or physically abuse people because of who they are, or how they present themselves. It’s none of your business to try to intimidate people into conformity.
27. If your gay, admit it to yourself, your parents, your friends and society at large. Be prepared to get harassed. See rule 14. If someone threatens you or assaults you, call the cops. Have them arrested. You have no obligation to self sacrifice because of who you are. As a gay person, you’ll have more social freedom than straight men. Use it to protect yourself. Be prepared to get out of Dodge if your orientation makes your life unbearable. Move to San Francisco, New York, Atlanta, or New Orleans. You’ll find a welcoming community there.
28. Don’t be a *****. Avoid being one of those dudes who puts a surfboard on top of their car, but never surfs, or a dude with a powder coated fixed gear bike and a messenger bag, but was never a messenger. Live the life. Earn your bona fides.
29. Don’t believe the crap about the patriarchy. More women are accepted and attend college. More degrees are awarded to women than men. Women outlive men. More men commit suicide. Men are twice as likely to be victims of violence, including murder. If you consider sexual assaults in prisons, twice as many men are raped as women (society thinks prison rape is funny). The streets are littered with homeless men, sprinkled with a few homeless women. Statically, women are happier than men. The myth that girls are being cheated by are educational system is belied by the fact that schools are bastions of femininity, mostly run by and taught by women. Girls outperform boys in school. It is the boys in school getting ****ed over, and prescribed ritalin for being boys. Real wages for men are falling, while real wages for women are rising. Just because someone says something enough times, doesn’t make it true. You have nothing to feel guilty about.
30. Remember, 97% of all advice is worthless. Take what you can use, and trash the rest.

novascotiaskate
03-16-2007, 09:38 PM
Out of pure curiousity, what spurred you on to write this?

skaterat
03-16-2007, 09:42 PM
I didn't write it, and don't necessarily agree with it all, just thought it was interesting and thought it might start some interesting conversation as well.

novascotiaskate
03-16-2007, 09:44 PM
Ahh. Well most of it I agree with, especially number 15, but I thought the don't become a republican one was pushing it a little. Not that it matters in Canada though.
Hopefully this will change a few attitudes around the forum, and people will start being a little more mature in some of their posts, and in life.

skaterat
03-16-2007, 09:47 PM
Hopefully this will change a few attitudes around the forum, and people will start being a little more mature in some of their posts, and in life.

That's what I'm talkin' about my brutha.

AdioBird52
03-16-2007, 10:32 PM
Trust me, if you lived in America, you'd hate the vast majority Republicans as well. (Or at least you should.)

I disagree with Number 4 somewhat. Most fistfights are stupid. I've never really been in one, unless you count this pussy punching me once, and me walking away, so my parents let me come back to the spot.

I also agree with 28 and 11 completely.

novascotiaskate
03-16-2007, 11:31 PM
Trust me, if you lived in America, you'd hate the vast majority Republicans as well. (Or at least you should.)
I used to live near Albany, New York for the greater portion of my life.

irishluk
03-16-2007, 11:47 PM
dammit. 15 is impossible for me.

Spanky rox
03-17-2007, 01:36 AM
wow u knocked the sense out of me

China Skate
03-17-2007, 02:20 AM
I agree with number 30

irishluk
03-17-2007, 06:30 AM
i agree with 26 and 27, i know a gay and a bi and i really have no problems with it. i dont expect anyone to be like me

FireFreek
03-17-2007, 03:02 PM
"28. Don’t be a *****. Avoid being one of those dudes who puts a surfboard on top of their car, but never surfs, or a dude with a powder coated fixed gear bike and a messenger bag, but was never a messenger. Live the life. Earn your bona fides."

STR8 RIPPIN'
03-17-2007, 07:32 PM
Interesting. I agree with most of that. Especially the one about being confident what ever number that is. I think your confidence controls almost all aspects of your life.

gmgsci
03-17-2007, 08:24 PM
HAHahaa, some of that stuff is great.

For the most part I will live by that.

Mr.42
03-17-2007, 09:27 PM
This thread is a breath of fresh air. It would hurt a lot of people's feelings, but it's pretty much true.

"society thinks prison rape is funny"

FireFreek
03-18-2007, 02:41 AM
shit. I just read the rest of the list.

26. Don’t gay bash. Don’t mentally or physically abuse people because of who they are, or how they present themselves. It’s none of your business to try to intimidate people into conformity.
27. If your gay, admit it to yourself, your parents, your friends and society at large. Be prepared to get harassed. See rule 14. If someone threatens you or assaults you, call the cops. Have them arrested. You have no obligation to self sacrifice because of who you are. As a gay person, you’ll have more social freedom than straight men. Use it to protect yourself. Be prepared to get out of Dodge if your orientation makes your life unbearable. Move to San Francisco, New York, Atlanta, or New Orleans. You’ll find a welcoming community there.

those are so true.

gmgsci
03-18-2007, 03:01 AM
^^^Definitely.

saikouslx
03-18-2007, 01:40 PM
dint understand all off it, but alot of it is good advice.

AdioBird52
03-18-2007, 05:06 PM
I used to live near Albany, New York for the greater portion of my life.

Yeah, but your not here now. Lucky.

danielb
03-18-2007, 05:20 PM
The thing that caught my attention was how creepy the title is, hehe.

novascotiaskate
03-19-2007, 01:50 AM
Yeah, but your not here now. Lucky.
You can guess when we moved out.

Idk, I still love New England. Good memories.

Celestico
03-19-2007, 04:47 AM
Props skaterat. Except for some underlying sexism I felt in a few of them, the majority of them have changed by views in a good way.






:-21:

Mark P
03-19-2007, 02:53 PM
:(

19. If your girlfriend doesn’t make you feel good about yourself and bring joy to your life, fire her. That’s what girlfriends are for.


why didn't i ever listen to that.

drummersince8
03-19-2007, 10:15 PM
As the trump says YA FIYAD

almostsk8er33
03-19-2007, 10:31 PM
What did that have to do with this thread?

bmmetcalf
03-20-2007, 03:51 AM
I have to frown upon number 5. Id join just so I can defend my countries useless wars and thier veiws in order to keep my country safe at home. Our strong military is the only thing keeping us safe from the the government and thier enemies.

Some of this advise is very true though. Except how males are cheated out more than women. Yes in ways men do get the short end of the stick but we still have more power than them.

drummersince8
03-21-2007, 02:34 AM
19. If your girlfriend doesn’t make you feel good about yourself and bring joy to your life, fire her. That’s what girlfriends are for.

thommyhild
03-21-2007, 04:13 AM
Wow. Heavy shit. Really gets you thinking about who you wanna be. I dunno, maybe I read deeper into it but that got me thinking alot.

MattC
03-21-2007, 07:15 PM
Sounds like whoever wrote that lied that he was in the Marines and is a die hard liberal. Some of the advice is good, but definitely don't take all that in.

Slyde
03-23-2007, 09:34 PM
Sounds like whoever wrote that lied that he was in the Marines and is a die hard liberal. Some of the advice is good, but definitely don't take all that in.

^That is what number 30 is for.......

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Anyways, WOW! Excellent advice for who ever wrote that. Skaterat, thanks for sharing dude, I favorited this.

juggle
03-23-2007, 11:51 PM
Trust me, if you lived in America, you'd hate the vast majority Republicans as well. (Or at least you should.)

I disagree with Number 4 somewhat. Most fistfights are stupid. I've never really been in one, unless you count this pussy punching me once, and me walking away, so my parents let me come back to the spot.

I also agree with 28 and 11 completely.

I think what is meant by getting into a fistfight is to get everything out. Ive been in a few in fact the other day i was jokeing with a kid and he took it to far poped me 4 times didnt hurt so i didnt punch him back. Then all of the sudden the kid bursts into tears. Fist fights you have to be mentally ready.

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