Goverment, Religion, Bull

[andrewri2]

The goverment. Religion, and Bullsh*t. first off. the goverment is not as bad as people make it seem. the goverment provides schools, health service, recreational facilities, shelters and hundreds and thousands of other services that make our american econmoy better. the goverment is not out to keep people poor. and the goverment is not the devil.


Religon. for thousands of years, religion has played the biggest role in our human society. civilizations have been built around it. wars have been fought over it, and people have rose up from religion. lives and civilizations have been destroyed over religion. imagine a war with no religion. with no war and no controversy from religion, and no priests pastors or the common man preeching about how the world is going to end and how we need to serve god. when infact there is no god. there is no devil. there is no heaven and hell. religion has been around for so long that it is hardwired into our lives to belive in it. most people our born into religion, and they bring thier kinds into religion also. if you were raised to belive your hand was called a foot. and for your whole life that's all you heard. when you hear otherwise, you assume the other person doesnt know what thier talking about because that's what you were told to belive.i belive this is the way most religious people were raised. religion covers the most basic human instincts. and people take religon way too far. its all bullsh*t. there is no god. no devil. no anything.

thats my story. hate it or belive it thats my beliefs. choose your own.

[Sk8 Shorty's]

wheres zack aka *****park when u need him?

the government is as bad as we think it is
pretty soon we will all have to carry around stupid ID cards just so government knows who's illegal and whos not, the government is taking over what freedom we are supposed to have
they will no everywhere we go, and everything we do.

seriously what freedom do we have now?
we cant do all we want, we cant say every thing, it only goes to a certain extent. Its not freedom if u can only do something half way.

Its like setting a bird free, but it can only fly in a certain area, what kinda freedom is that? none at all
and thats exactly what the government is doing
letting us do certain things that some other countries dont have, yet we have boundaries on the things we should be able to do all we want, that is not freedom.

The goverment is ****ed up and always will be, its getting worse and worse as the years go on, the government is full of lies and always will be.

and also, why the hell as your first post did u choose to make it about something that will start an argument?

[rankz]

This will be a flame fest.
However, I slightly agree with both your points.

[rankz]

Hold on...isn't Andrewi the name of that chap who claimed he hurt his knee in some crazy 50-50 down a handrail but it turned out to be a big fake?

[AdioBird52]

I was just thinking that.

Your a loser Andrew. Go play with your barbies and leave us alone.

[Greenday]

Religon. for thousands of years, religion has played the biggest role in our human society. civilizations have been built around it. wars have been fought over it, and people have rose up from religion. lives and civilizations have been destroyed over religion. imagine a war with no religion. with no war and no controversy from religion, and no priests pastors or the common man preeching about how the world is going to end and how we need to serve god. when infact there is no god. there is no devil. there is no heaven and hell. religion has been around for so long that it is hardwired into our lives to belive in it. most people our born into religion, and they bring thier kinds into religion also. if you were raised to belive your hand was called a foot. and for your whole life that's all you heard. when you hear otherwise, you assume the other person doesnt know what thier talking about because that's what you were told to belive.i belive this is the way most religious people were raised. religion covers the most basic human instincts. and people take religon way too far. its all bullsh*t. there is no god. no devil. no anything.

thats my story. hate it or belive it thats my beliefs. choose your own.
Just because you were born into no religion and raised believng there isn't, it doesn't make you right. I'm not saying I'm right, but at least I have something to put my faith in.

STFU. You're one of them aren't you? Those corperate-brainwashed-mindless-puppets. Dammit, they've got more people than I thought.

[andrewri2]

i was born into religion... but now im an athiest.. im not those brainwashed puppet guys... i dont know who andrewri is either..

[Mark P]

Soon were all just going to be known as a number on an ID card.

Religion is behind each way pretty much if its not for oil.

Its all bull. just skate

[Sk8 Shorty's]

lets check andrewri2's IP address.

[Super_Skater]

Everyones entitled to their own opinion, this is yours, but seriously this thread will most likely cause nothing but trouble.

[skateblank714]

man i must be bored

umm i checked the ip and its not him, so yeah, just a huge coincidence. its not as if hes mr spitfire or anything...

anyways government and religion, carry on then. lets hear some good points and prove that we too can come up with a mature argument not including the words gay, fag or your momma

[andrewri2]

yes.... it is a huge coinsidence( or how ever you spell it)... who is this andrewri guy anyways?

[AdioBird52]

I think he moved or something.

I'm not religious at all. I was when I was really little, but I basically grew out of it.

The government is WORSE than most people think. It is their job to help us out. Of course, they do a very poor job of it. In the USA, we oughta have free health insurance, like the Canadian Government provides. We also should not be in relitively pointless wars, like this one, killing hundreds and thousands of Americans. Not cool.

[andrewri2]

well number one... we are not in a pointless war. we are fighting to keep peace and democracy in iraq. we went in there and f**ked it up, so now we have to fix it. and i lived in ohio my whole life.

[Slyde]

Government

You obviously don't know the truth about September 11th. Google it, is all I have to say about that. The government is NOT ALL EVIL. There are people called Globalists who have points of power in the government whose final goal is the destruction of America, because it is such a powerful nation. The only reasons we have "schools, health service, recreational facilities, shelters and hundreds and thousands of other services" is because of those people in the government whose only intention is good.

The President, is a betrayer, a backstabber, a whore. When his dad was in presidency, the 1991 attacks on the WTC happened. It failed, and so they had to re plan it with the election of his son. Bush did not win the election, but the globalists had to carry their plan out, that's why a lot of people say that our votes don't count. Because honestly, they can make anybody win, as they did with George W. Bush.

Bush "won" the election and truth is, they were planning to go to war with Iraq anyways, but he couldn't mindlessly go into war. They needed a scapegoat. What could be better than 9/11? They lied to civilians and got them fired up to support the war at the beginning. Clever huh? Bin Laden is a paid tactician, they paid him billions of dollars to fund his purpose. If you look at previous news clips, 2.3 billion dollars got "stolen" from the lottery just 2 days before 9/11, which was the same money they used to pay Laden. Coincidentally, it was never on the news again.

They wanted to go to war with Iraq to increase the number of Globalists, people who hate America. They planned to do the same exact thing against Cuba. President Kennedy rejected the plan and was therefore murdered.

9/11 was also brought down by controlled demolitions, but that is a story for another day.

Religion. I strongly believe in God and I always will. If you don't believe in God (you obviously don't) take a second to think of all the miracles that have happened thus far in the world. Also, all the events that the Bible foretold.
You will see my face in the clouds of Judgement Day my friend.


Bullshit. The government being nice is bullshit. The government being mean is bullshit. Don't even pay mind to any of this government shit, there is nothing we can do to stop it right now. I'm getting the **** out of this country when I turn 18. To Canada I go.

My 2 cents on the issue. I would have literally typed 2 pages worth of my opinion, esp. on religion, but I HAVE to go eat, and my back hurts.

Peace and love all.

[AlmostJeff]

i was born into religion... but now im an athiest.. im not those brainwashed puppet guys... i dont know who andrewri is either..
I believe in God and I have a religion...so I'm a brainwashed puppet, that's a new one. Not trying to start shit because I know people that are like that, go to church, take in every word our priest says to us, and claims to be the perfect person. All I'm trying to say here is that God isn't the problem, it's religion...two different things, and be careful about what you say around here because this kind of thread will get you flamed and that leads to arguments and that leads to getting kicked out.

[BlindSkater]

The goverment. Religion, and Bullsh*t. first off. the goverment is not as bad as people make it seem. the goverment provides schools, health service, recreational facilities, shelters and hundreds and thousands of other services that make our american econmoy better. the goverment is not out to keep people poor. and the goverment is not the devil.


Religon. for thousands of years, religion has played the biggest role in our human society. civilizations have been built around it. wars have been fought over it, and people have rose up from religion. lives and civilizations have been destroyed over religion. imagine a war with no religion. with no war and no controversy from religion, and no priests pastors or the common man preeching about how the world is going to end and how we need to serve god. when infact there is no god. there is no devil. there is no heaven and hell. religion has been around for so long that it is hardwired into our lives to belive in it. most people our born into religion, and they bring thier kinds into religion also. if you were raised to belive your hand was called a foot. and for your whole life that's all you heard. when you hear otherwise, you assume the other person doesnt know what thier talking about because that's what you were told to belive.i belive this is the way most religious people were raised. religion covers the most basic human instincts. and people take religon way too far. its all bullsh*t. there is no god. no devil. no anything.

thats my story. hate it or belive it thats my beliefs. choose your own.

your my new hero. although i do not think all things are bad. religion, i see it as most just need something to believe in something...

[Elementsk8board]

if u dont believe in God,what do u believe?
that the world came from monkeys HAAA!!!!

[minervo]

I think he moved or something.

I'm not religious at all. I was when I was really little, but I basically grew out of it.

The government is WORSE than most people think. It is their job to help us out. Of course, they do a very poor job of it. In the USA, we oughta have free health insurance, like the Canadian Government provides. We also should not be in relitively pointless wars, like this one, killing hundreds and thousands of Americans. Not cool.

Oh yeah, it's someone else's job to take care of us, right? We're too stupid and pathetic to take care of ourselves so we depend on the gov't to do it for us. And hey, while we're at it, why doesn't the government just come and spoonfeed us as well? Please. You want free health care and yet im sure you'd scoff at the proposal of higher taxes in America. The gov't does NOT have money flowing out of its ass and believe it or not, they have a budget and they simply can't take care of all 300 million American's individual needs.
Also, what the hell is this about the war? You complain about the war in Iraq and yet i'm sure if Bin Laden or Saddam came to your house and killed your family, you would go crying to the government and blame them for NOT waging war on Iraq. Dude, you can't have it both ways.

[minervo]

Government

You obviously don't know the truth about September 11th. Google it, is all I have to say about that. The government is NOT ALL EVIL. There are people called Globalists who have points of power in the government whose final goal is the destruction of America, because it is such a powerful nation. The only reasons we have "schools, health service, recreational facilities, shelters and hundreds and thousands of other services" is because of those people in the government whose only intention is good.

The President, is a betrayer, a backstabber, a whore. When his dad was in presidency, the 1991 attacks on the WTC happened. It failed, and so they had to re plan it with the election of his son. Bush did not win the election, but the globalists had to carry their plan out, that's why a lot of people say that our votes don't count. Because honestly, they can make anybody win, as they did with George W. Bush.

Bush "won" the election and truth is, they were planning to go to war with Iraq anyways, but he couldn't mindlessly go into war. They needed a scapegoat. What could be better than 9/11? They lied to civilians and got them fired up to support the war at the beginning. Clever huh? Bin Laden is a paid tactician, they paid him billions of dollars to fund his purpose. If you look at previous news clips, 2.3 billion dollars got "stolen" from the lottery just 2 days before 9/11, which was the same money they used to pay Laden. Coincidentally, it was never on the news again.

They wanted to go to war with Iraq to increase the number of Globalists, people who hate America. They planned to do the same exact thing against Cuba. President Kennedy rejected the plan and was therefore murdered.

9/11 was also brought down by controlled demolitions, but that is a story for another day.

Religion. I strongly believe in God and I always will. If you don't believe in God (you obviously don't) take a second to think of all the miracles that have happened thus far in the world. Also, all the events that the Bible foretold.
You will see my face in the clouds of Judgement Day my friend.


Bullshit. The government being nice is bullshit. The government being mean is bullshit. Don't even pay mind to any of this government shit, there is nothing we can do to stop it right now. I'm getting the **** out of this country when I turn 18. To Canada I go.

My 2 cents on the issue. I would have literally typed 2 pages worth of my opinion, esp. on religion, but I HAVE to go eat, and my back hurts.

Peace and love all.

You're talking like what your saying is fact; its nothing but a conspiracy THEORY that lacks any proof or evidence whatsoever. There is a possibility of the whole 9/11 thing being a plot devised by the government to turn the American public in favor of the war in Iraq, but it is unlikely, as nobody came forward and admitted to being told in advance of the attacks on the WTC. If the government really did do this on purpose, they would have had to tell the the airport security, the actual terrorist involved, and a whole lot of other people who at least some of which would probably would come forward and admit to being a part of the reason for deaths of thousands of people and thousands of mourning families. Then again, me and you only know the imformation fed to us by the media and other sources that are known for propaganda and are otherwise unreliable, so arguing over this is rather useless. But you should stop talking as if you know what your talking about because you really don't.

[yoda_emo]

The goverment. Religion, and Bullsh*t. first off. the goverment is not as bad as people make it seem. the goverment provides schools, health service, recreational facilities, shelters and hundreds and thousands of other services that make our american econmoy better. the goverment is not out to keep people poor. and the goverment is not the devil.


Religon. for thousands of years, religion has played the biggest role in our human society. civilizations have been built around it. wars have been fought over it, and people have rose up from religion. lives and civilizations have been destroyed over religion. imagine a war with no religion. with no war and no controversy from religion, and no priests pastors or the common man preeching about how the world is going to end and how we need to serve god. when infact there is no god. there is no devil. there is no heaven and hell. religion has been around for so long that it is hardwired into our lives to belive in it. most people our born into religion, and they bring thier kinds into religion also. if you were raised to belive your hand was called a foot. and for your whole life that's all you heard. when you hear otherwise, you assume the other person doesnt know what thier talking about because that's what you were told to belive.i belive this is the way most religious people were raised. religion covers the most basic human instincts. and people take religon way too far. its all bullsh*t. there is no god. no devil. no anything.

thats my story. hate it or belive it thats my beliefs. choose your own.
Loosin up man..if anythin the government and politics should be the last thing that is discussed on this forum and it should all be left up 2 the politics-i mean that's wat they're payed for isn't it??? I think it's ok that we discuss this sorta thing but it's abit ova the top to argue and i mean religeon and government are heavy topics...if u don't know it then i'll tell u-ramprage is all about one thing..boarding-snowboarding,skateboarding and BMX....boardingummm...i kinda stuffed up there..but the point is that this forum is about discussing a passion for skating,snowboarding and bmxing not discussing politics to that detailed level..it's ok i guess 2 discuss this sorta thing but don't act like your word is ;law...u shouldn't say it like u are laying down the rules and syin the truth not a theroy.... if i'm going over the top just tell me guys but it's abit too heavy a theroy..if u hav big ideas go tell sum1 who is interested...here hwo abou this-http://www.itsallpolitics.com/:-1:

[Snaker]

Wow, it's been awhile since a thread like this has surfaced. Ok, well, I'll put my two cents in.

Government. I have this personal belief, see, that has been shown to repeat itself throughout the history of organized government. Every time any sort of government is set up, the people who set it up believe it to be the best system for governing their people. For awhile, it works, just like they saw it on paper. But after awhile, it becomes corrupt. It stops working as well as it originally did. It stops serving all the public and begins serving just a few. Once it gets too bad, a revolt or revolution rises up, and eventually, the old system is torn down, and the people build a new system, while eventually becomes corrupt, too, and the whole process begins again. Look at Russia: long ago, it was a monarchy, and like the majority of the rest of the world, in 1547 that monarchy was overthrown for an imperialism. And then, in 1922, that imperialism too was overthrown (thank to the ideals of Marx) and became a communism. At first, communism worked great too, as it is a fantastic system. Once again, it became corrupt, and Yeltsin dissolved the communist state in 1991. Now it's a democracy, and somehow, I don't see that not falling one day.

Basically, I don't think there is any governmental system that can last, because eventually, the darker side of the human psyche corrupts any achievement we accomplish. That's why I'm an anarchist: if there is no system of government, if cannot fall.

All government states will fall, and will be recycled into new ones, so to say.

As for religion, I see it as simply a way to fill a void in one's life. A reason to live; a reason for existence. Which there is none, when it comes down to it. But still, people need something to believe in, so I'm not against religion. I'm against the organization of religion, because once it's organized, people corrupt that, too. Except that peoples' passion in religion prevents it from becoming victim the the cycle I described earlier. Once a religion is organized, that religion's beliefs become absolute, and you have to believe what they tell you or you are not of their religion. That's why I take certain beliefs from spiritualism, Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, and a few others to create my own personal set of beliefs.

[saikouslx]

People go to war over things such as greed and pride and wealth. Take away religion and there woiuld just be more wars with these. As for the whole believing in religion. I am religious (not rwallly religous but i believe in god) and you dont. When we both die, if i am right, your ****ed for eternity, if i am wrong, im dead so i cant regret it.

[andrewri2]

People go to war over things such as greed and pride and wealth. Take away religion and there woiuld just be more wars with these. As for the whole believing in religion. I am religious (not rwallly religous but i believe in god) and you dont. When we both die, if i am right, your ****ed for eternity, if i am wrong, im dead so i cant regret it.


there were alot more wars fought over religion than greed and wealth.. genosides and downfalls have come from religon. but so has spirtitualism, a hope for peace, and other good things, religion is good before it gets too big. and you are right, if what you belive is correct, than i am FU**ED, even if what you belive is right, i will stand by my beliefs for an eternity.

[luckysk8er1991]

Why does everyone always have to try and make other beleive what they do? Every one should just lay off. let them do what they want. its not hurting you. I dont really care what other people think about religion and im sure no one really cares what i think. Its your own decision and i think that everyone should just stop arguing about religion. It just makes everyone get upset. thats just my 2 cents.

[goofy>everyone]

...so I'm a brainwashed puppet, that's a new one.

I think when Andrewri2 said that he was refering the the above comment by greenday calling him a brainwashed puppet. I think.

[crazy_dave]

That's why I take certain beliefs from spiritualism, Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, and a few others to create my own personal set of beliefs.

As do i.

I have nothing to say about the American govn. as i dont live there. I believe the same as snaker about religion though. Love it or hate it, thats how i think.

[Mr.42]

I (verb) threads where each poster talks like he knows what's really going on, and that everyone else is blind.

Gah, now you know my secret.... everything I write is in mad lib form. And I can't decide on the way I feel about these threads. Oh well.

Government - essential but inevitably corrupt
Religion - bad and wrong
Bull - yummy in my tummy

[MattC]

Religion may be bullshit but only because it considers God as a person or thing that judges. God is a force that can be harnessed by anyone who are able to rise above. I know I've found God and I'm a strict science whore. Science proves God. Go ahead and study quantum mechanics.

[novascotiaskate]

A couple of bold statements are being thrown around here.

Whoever said they want free health insurance, you are wrong. You know how they get the money to pay for free health insurance? Your taxes. If your countries taxes aren't enough to pay for free health insurance, you know what it does? Raises them. Also, if they are dumping all the money into giving people free health insurance, you know what suffers? The hospitals. Try 6 hour waiting lines for being in a car accident where you break a bone and are bleeding from the forehead. Oh, in that time, 4 people go in. Doctors don't work as well when they are being paid badly.
Another note on taxes; whenever you hear a politican say they are going down, they are lying. Taxes can only go up. The chunk of people born during the baby boom years is enormous here in North America, and when you look at them on a pyramid graph the effect is intense. People our age, who, when the baby boomers all retire, will be paying for their benefits and keeping them alive. Our taxes will increases tenfold when 1/3 of the (quick est.) population are retired and want their checks.
Population Change in US from 2000 to 2050 (est) (http://www.census.gov/cgi-bin/ipc/idbpyrs.pl?cty=US&out=s&ymax=250)
Suck on that bone for a bit.

[Mr.42]

Religion may be bullshit but only because it considers God as a person or thing that judges. God is a force that can be harnessed by anyone who are able to rise above. I know I've found God and I'm a strict science whore. Science proves God. Go ahead and study quantum mechanics.

"Science proves God." What does that mean?

[Slyde]

I'm wrong you're right. There.

[Greenday]

Government

You obviously don't know the truth about September 11th. Google it, is all I have to say about that. The government is NOT ALL EVIL. There are people called Globalists who have points of power in the government whose final goal is the destruction of America, because it is such a powerful nation. The only reasons we have "schools, health service, recreational facilities, shelters and hundreds and thousands of other services" is because of those people in the government whose only intention is good.

The President, is a betrayer, a backstabber, a whore. When his dad was in presidency, the 1991 attacks on the WTC happened. It failed, and so they had to re plan it with the election of his son. Bush did not win the election, but the globalists had to carry their plan out, that's why a lot of people say that our votes don't count. Because honestly, they can make anybody win, as they did with George W. Bush.

Bush "won" the election and truth is, they were planning to go to war with Iraq anyways, but he couldn't mindlessly go into war. They needed a scapegoat. What could be better than 9/11? They lied to civilians and got them fired up to support the war at the beginning. Clever huh? Bin Laden is a paid tactician, they paid him billions of dollars to fund his purpose. If you look at previous news clips, 2.3 billion dollars got "stolen" from the lottery just 2 days before 9/11, which was the same money they used to pay Laden. Coincidentally, it was never on the news again.

They wanted to go to war with Iraq to increase the number of Globalists, people who hate America. They planned to do the same exact thing against Cuba. President Kennedy rejected the plan and was therefore murdered.

9/11 was also brought down by controlled demolitions, but that is a story for another day.

Religion. I strongly believe in God and I always will. If you don't believe in God (you obviously don't) take a second to think of all the miracles that have happened thus far in the world. Also, all the events that the Bible foretold.
You will see my face in the clouds of Judgement Day my friend.


Bullshit. The government being nice is bullshit. The government being mean is bullshit. Don't even pay mind to any of this government shit, there is nothing we can do to stop it right now. I'm getting the **** out of this country when I turn 18. To Canada I go.

My 2 cents on the issue. I would have literally typed 2 pages worth of my opinion, esp. on religion, but I HAVE to go eat, and my back hurts.

Peace and love all.
Reminds me of playng Metal Gear Solid 2.

When I said " Corperate-brainwashed-mindless-puppets", I meant you actually believed the propaganda crap the media feeds to people.

[Poser Park]

Ah man...Snaker pretty much said everything that I was going to say.

[Slyde]

Reminds me of playng Metal Gear Solid 2.

When I said " Corperate-brainwashed-mindless-puppets", I meant you actually believed the propaganda crap the media feeds to people.

If you're talking about me then you have it quite reversed.
The crap that the media feeds is that it was a terrorist attack. We clearly have different beliefs and I would like to leave it at that, before it gets ugly.

[SkatingTillDead]

I feel sooo out of place here .
Im only 13 and in my opinion without god in your life , your hollow .
this is not my turn to speak nor will it be for at least 10 years , i just beleive that to know that a spirit in the sky is looking down and can make things better , is always comforting to me .

[MeLike2Skate]

About religion- I think christianity is bullshit. All we do is praise someone with no scientific proof of existance. And all they are teaching us from confessions is to live in regret....I dont think that much if I do something "sinful". Our governments ****ed to.

[novascotiaskate]

I feel sooo out of place here .
Im only 13 and in my opinion without god in your life , your hollow .
this is not my turn to speak nor will it be for at least 10 years , i just beleive that to know that a spirit in the sky is looking down and can make things better , is always comforting to me .
Nothing like the warm blanket of naivety.

[skateblank714]

I feel sooo out of place here .
Im only 13 and in my opinion without god in your life , your hollow .
this is not my turn to speak nor will it be for at least 10 years , i just beleive that to know that a spirit in the sky is looking down and can make things better , is always comforting to me .

i think its awesome that you can have such strong believes about something, especially at that age, although they were probably put on you by your parents. Either im a believer of believing what you want to believe, and not trying to force any of those beliefs on any one else.... believe.

[Slyde]

i think its awesome that you can have such strong believes about something, especially at that age, although they were probably put on you by your parents. Either im a believer of believing what you want to believe, and not trying to force any of those beliefs on any one else.... believe.

Haha, that was discombobulating.

I strongly have faith in God and Jesus and I'm 14. It was not forced on me by my parents. I just know, somehow, that it is all real.

Sometimes, I get angry and ask questions like "Why me?" Then there are times when I know he has blessed me. I think alot of you who don't believe will find yourself getting closer to Jesus than you think.

[Snaker]

Nothing like the warm blanket of naivety.
I've been thinking that while reading most of this thread.

[Elementsk8board]

I feel sooo out of place here .
Im only 13 and in my opinion without god in your life , your hollow .
this is not my turn to speak nor will it be for at least 10 years , i just beleive that to know that a spirit in the sky is looking down and can make things better , is always comforting to me .

i agree with him

[crazy_dave]

Ah man...Snaker pretty much said everything that I was going to say.

But oh do say something. Its not often we get a visit from Lord Zack!

[Ebone]

I don't really care what the goverment does,and for religion i think it dumb so i'm not but i believe that there is a god.

[andrewri2]

Haha, that was discombobulating.

I strongly have faith in God and Jesus and I'm 14. It was not forced on me by my parents. I just know, somehow, that it is all real.

Sometimes, I get angry and ask questions like "Why me?" Then there are times when I know he has blessed me. I think alot of you who don't believe will find yourself getting closer to Jesus than you think.


i dont know how close i want to get 2 jesus.. he looks like a scarry man,

[Sk8 Shorty's]

i dont know how close i want to get 2 jesus.. he looks like a scarry man,

hahahhahhahahahah wow, just wow.

[HailToTheThief]

This thread is adorable like a puppy !

[Mr.42]

I am better than you.

[Sk8 Shorty's]

This thread is adorable like a puppy !


oh yeah if the puppy is like this....

http://www.synthstuff.com/mt/archives/ugly-dog.jpg

hahaha

[andrewri2]

oh yeah if the puppy is like this....

http://www.synthstuff.com/mt/archives/ugly-dog.jpg

hahaha


lol.... thats dog is ugly.

[Poser Park]

On the subject of religion...

If the Adam & Eve story were true, we'd all be retarded...or we wouldn't even be here at all. Adam & Eve had 3 sons, the bible tells us this...but how did the human race continue? The only conclusion is that Adam & his sons had sex with either their wife/mother or their daughters/sisters...incest weakens human genetics: we shouldn't be here.

Noah's Ark: How did millions of species of animals, from all over the world, fit into a boat 300 feet long & 200 feet wide? What did they eat? Not possible... I call bullshit.

Why won't God heal amputees? He has the "power" to heal simple diseases, but he won't restore someone's missing leg/arm.

Why is it that God answers the prayers of someone begging for a promotion, but he ignores the prayers of children starving in Africa?

If God exists he's an evil, heartless bastard...and I want nothing to do with him.

[novascotiaskate]

I'm agnostic, but playing the devils advocate (oh the irony).
On the subject of religion...

If the Adam & Eve story were true, we'd all be retarded...or we wouldn't even be here at all. Adam & Eve had 3 sons, the bible tells us this...but how did the human race continue? The only conclusion is that Adam & his sons had sex with either their wife/mother or their daughters/sisters...incest weakens human genetics: we shouldn't be here.

You don't automatically come out of the womb retarded if you are born from an incestuous relationship. Also, they weren't the brightest people to begin with; it took a long time for humans to come to where they are.


Noah's Ark: How did millions of species of animals, from all over the world, fit into a boat 300 feet long & 200 feet wide? What did they eat? Not possible... I call bullshit.

They stored lots of grain, and a couple animals didn't make the cut.


Why won't God heal amputees? He has the "power" to heal simple diseases, but he won't restore someone's missing leg/arm.

Even though he has everlasting love for his creation, that doesn't mean he has to babysit them all the time. He lets us get on with our lives, and it's up to you to have faith. Also, if you had the power to heal all the diseases, would you be walking around doing so? For free?
"I WANT SOME WAFFLE FRIES, FO FREE"


Why is it that God answers the prayers of someone begging for a promotion, but he ignores the prayers of children starving in Africa?

Same thing, and it's a proven fact that all African's are heathans, atleast thats what everyone from the 18th century thought. (I JOKE, I'm not racist)


If God exists he's an evil, heartless bastard...and I want nothing to do with him.
Satan's always around.

Once again, just playing the devils advocate.

[AlmostJeff]

On the subject of religion...

If the Adam & Eve story were true, we'd all be retarded...or we wouldn't even be here at all. Adam & Eve had 3 sons, the bible tells us this...but how did the human race continue? The only conclusion is that Adam & his sons had sex with either their wife/mother or their daughters/sisters...incest weakens human genetics: we shouldn't be here.

Noah's Ark: How did millions of species of animals, from all over the world, fit into a boat 300 feet long & 200 feet wide? What did they eat? Not possible... I call bullshit.

Why won't God heal amputees? He has the "power" to heal simple diseases, but he won't restore someone's missing leg/arm.

Why is it that God answers the prayers of someone begging for a promotion, but he ignores the prayers of children starving in Africa?

If God exists he's an evil, heartless bastard...and I want nothing to do with him.
You DO realize that the bible isn't meant to be taken word for word? The bible has stories that use symbols, take adam and eve for instance, we can't understand God creating a mass of people so we use symbols I.E. adam and eve to represent a whole population...As for Noah and the ark, it could have just been one guy named Noah gathering his cat and dog (or whatever) and building a boat to escape a flood that was in the area not the whole entire world, but it could have been the world to them. Moral of the Noah and ark story was that a population was sinning, so God told the only do gooder to prepare for a flood, therefore telling us that if you sin you die a terrible death, and if you do good you are "saved."

[skateblank714]

http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/hprajani/phun/god-v-satan.png

[Sk8 Shorty's]

so your saying for all those times murders happened
it was God and not Satan?

no its satan, satan is always in our minds and tempts us to do things like murder and rape and other things and unmoral acts
its way more than just 10


idk why we argue over religion, neither side has enough proof to say
"im a 100% sure that the Bible and what it says is true" or vice versa
we might as well just wait till the day comes and we die to find out who was right and who was wrong

[crazy_dave]

http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/hprajani/phun/god-v-satan.png

HAHAA that made me laugh so frickin much.

[andrewri2]

so your saying for all those times murders happened
it was God and not Satan?

no its satan, satan is always in our minds and tempts us to do things like murder and rape and other things and unmoral acts
its way more than just 10


idk why we argue over religion, neither side has enough proof to say
"im a 100% sure that the Bible and what it says is true" or vice versa
we might as well just wait till the day comes and we die to find out who was right and who was wrong

there is no satan or god.. when people see stuff they can't explain. they say its something unnatrual or a merical or it's a tradgerdy or work of evil, and over time they classified that as good being a miracale and satan being a tradgerdy. satan doesnt kill peaople or tempt people to kill people, we do that. and god doesnt do the same either. religion is stupid to me. but it gives some people guidance and hope, that's all religion should be but then you have extremist and people who get to worked up with religion.. so religon also brings death and terror.. and one religious group fighting agisnt another is stupid, because what makes one god more real or powerful than another?

[Sk8 Shorty's]

there is no satan or god.. when people see stuff they can't explain. they say its something unnatrual or a merical or it's a tradgerdy or work of evil, and over time they classified that as good being a miracale and satan being a tradgerdy. satan doesnt kill peaople or tempt people to kill people, we do that. and god doesnt do the same either. religion is stupid to me. but it gives some people guidance and hope, that's all religion should be but then you have extremist and people who get to worked up with religion.. so religon also brings death and terror.. and one religious group fighting agisnt another is stupid, because what makes one god more real or powerful than another?


hahahaha and u would know that there isnt a satan or God how?
plz plz tell me why you think this. Cause id love to hear your reasons why there is no Satan or God.
I love how u talk like your some 10 year old
dont come on here talking like u think u know everything about the government and religion when u talk like some 10 year old that cant be taken seriously.

noone is ever sure of what is right and what is wrong when it comes to religion, we all have to wait till the day we die, its as simple as that.

[Snaker]

God is an invention designed to make people feel more secure about their purpose here on Earth, and Satan is an entity created so that people have someone to blame their shortcomings on.

[Greenday]

satan doesnt kill peaople or tempt people to kill people, we do that.
Satan is temptation. It's in every one of us. The reason why it seems that God "punishes" some people and not others is to test their faith, to see if they're really faithful. God has his ways, and noone can ever know what God is thinking when he "punishes" people.
Again, I'm not saying I'm right, but that's what I beleive.

[JoeyKovacs]

no one can 100% prove that God exists
no one can 100% prove that God doesn't exist.


The end.

[Sk8 Shorty's]

no one can 100% prove that God exists
no one can 100% prove that God doesn't exist.


The end.


thats EXACTLY what ive been trying to say.

its pointless to argue about it cause noone will ever be 100% sure until they/we all die

[andrewri2]

hahahaha and u would know that there isnt a satan or God how?
plz plz tell me why you think this. Cause id love to hear your reasons why there is no Satan or God.
I love how u talk like your some 10 year old
dont come on here talking like u think u know everything about the government and religion when u talk like some 10 year old that cant be taken seriously.

noone is ever sure of what is right and what is wrong when it comes to religion, we all have to wait till the day we die, its as simple as that.

are you retarted... if you read the quote then you'd know what i was talking about.. and 10 year old my ass.

[Sk8 Shorty's]

are you retarted... if you read the quote then you'd know what i was talking about.. and 10 year old my ass.


hahaa im retarded? ok then w/e u say ass whipe
sometimes its hard to read what u say cause u talk like a 10 year old sometimes
and yeah.... u do.

and quit saying stuff like u know for sure what is the truth and what is not

cause u dont.

[novascotiaskate]

You DO realize that the bible isn't meant to be taken word for word? The bible has stories that use symbols, take adam and eve for instance, we can't understand God creating a mass of people so we use symbols I.E. adam and eve to represent a whole population...As for Noah and the ark, it could have just been one guy named Noah gathering his cat and dog (or whatever) and building a boat to escape a flood that was in the area not the whole entire world, but it could have been the world to them. Moral of the Noah and ark story was that a population was sinning, so God told the only do gooder to prepare for a flood, therefore telling us that if you sin you die a terrible death, and if you do good you are "saved."
Exactly. The bible isn't meant to be accepted as total historical fact; it is used for portray messages in a way that would:
A) Frighten people into believing
B) Entertain people into believing
C) Show messages through metaphors and concepts
The bible can be used for history in certain senses, IE getting an idea of life at certain periods in time, but not as stone cold fact.
Also, the people writing the bible were EXTREMELY biased. Do you really think God would create woman, only to have her be man's servant? The same goes for homosexuals; doesn't God UNCONDITIONALLY love all of he's creatures? The writers were obviously trying to use it as a tool to sculpt people into believeing what they wanted them too.
there is no satan or god.. when people see stuff they can't explain. they say its something unnatrual or a merical or it's a tradgerdy or work of evil, and over time they classified that as good being a miracale and satan being a tradgerdy. satan doesnt kill peaople or tempt people to kill people, we do that. and god doesnt do the same either. religion is stupid to me. but it gives some people guidance and hope, that's all religion should be but then you have extremist and people who get to worked up with religion.. so religon also brings death and terror.. and one religious group fighting agisnt another is stupid, because what makes one god more real or powerful than another?
I agree with Sk8 Shorty's, not to mention, don't you think, Andrewri2, with your vast knowledge that obviously extends beyond that of mortal man, that even if there is no god, it's better to have something to believe in on your time on this earth? Isn't it a rough and sorry life to just widdle out the years waiting to be snuffed out?
Now make a valid and cohesive agruement while at least checking what you wrote (your spelling/grammar is terrible, nough' said).

[skateblank714]

so your saying for all those times murders happened
it was God and not Satan?

no its satan, satan is always in our minds and tempts us to do things like murder and rape and other things and unmoral acts
its way more than just 10


idk why we argue over religion, neither side has enough proof to say
"im a 100% sure that the Bible and what it says is true" or vice versa
we might as well just wait till the day comes and we die to find out who was right and who was wrong

noahs arc alone, he killed god knows how many people (im sure he does seeing as he killed them), not satan. then wasnt there a bible story in south park were god killed some dudes family, and gave him some disease or something to prove to satan that this dude would still worship him.... or was that just south park. havent read the bible

i do realize the thread is closed, just thought id add that god did kill people in the bible

[Ramp]