Officials: Gunman dead after bloody campus rampage

[Sk8 Shorty's]

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/16/vtech.shooting/index.html

just thought I'd like to share.
according to 2 government officials, its the worst school shooting ever in the nations history.

plz comment with your thoughts.

[almostsk8er33]

Terrible incident.

This was just posted btw.

[gmgsci]

Yuck, thats disgusting.

[Snaker]

I was about to post this. I think it's partially the university's fault for not informing the students about the first shooting until the second one was happening. If they had, many people could have gotten out and lived.

[Sk8 Shorty's]

Terrible incident.

This was just posted btw.


ohhh well i didnt notice it was
my bad :P

[crazy_dave]

You guys think that if handguns were illegal it wouldve helped at all?

[China Skate]

Yeah it's been all over the news
My prayers are out to the victim's families
It's supposedly the biggest 'campus shooting' in American history.

[CYNnaMdlO]

You guys think that if handguns were illegal it wouldve helped at all?

we're too far from being gun free in the US. i know it works somewhat for you guys across the pond.

i have been in law enforcement in NYC for over 15 years (yeah.. i'm old, and a cop.. but one of the good guys.) and from my experience i belv that bad guys will get guns no matter what you do.

legislation in the way of stiffer penalties would go much farther to help stem violent crime and guns.

that said... i do not want to take away from the tragedy that these victims and their families have to endure now.

i hope all of the victims, and their families can find peace after all of this. absolute tragedy.

edited to add a quote from Shane ..
A gun is a tool, Marian; no better or no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.

[almostsk8er33]

Guns don't kill people. People kill people.

[Griptape Flip]

Wow, i'm speechless, that is horrible.

[Ebone]

Thats horrible we got sick people in this world,my prayers go out to victims and their families.

[skaterat]

It's supposedly the biggest 'campus shooting' in American history.

Worst in US History, not just on a campus. Check these stats.

April 16, 2007
33 dead, 20 wounded
Virginia Tech.
Blacksburg, Va.
Gunman: Not yet identified

Oct. 16, 1991
24 dead, 20 wounded
Luby's Cafeteria
Killeen, Texas
Gunman: George Hennard

July 18, 1984
22 dead, 19 wounded
McDonald's Restaurant
San Ysidro, Calif.
Gunman: James Huberty

Aug. 1, 1966
17 dead, 31 wounded
University of Texas Tower
Austin, Texas
Gunman: Charles Whitman

April 20, 1999
15 dead, 23 wounded
Columbine High School
Littleton, Colo.
Gunmen: Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold

Aug. 20, 1986
15 dead, 6 wounded
Edmond Post Office
Edmond, Okla.
Gunman: Patrick Sherrill

July 29, 1999
13 dead, 13 wounded
Atlanta brokerage offices
Atlanta, Ga.
Gunman: Mark Barton

June 18, 1990
10 dead, 4 wounded
GMAC Office
Jacksonville, Fla.
Gunman: James Pough

Sept. 14, 1989
9 dead, 12 wounded
Standard Gravure Corporation
Louisville, Ky.
Gunman: Joseph Wesbecker

July 1, 1993
9 dead, 6 wounded
Pettit & Martin Law Offices
San Francisco, Calif.
Gunman: Gian Ferri

[CYNnaMdlO]

that's brutal stuff.
the reality is that it can happen ANYWHERE at ANYTIME.

i have buried too many friends and loved ones over the years...
i don't wish it on anyone.

[skaterat]

Your so right. Words can't even come close to describing how tragic an act like this is. Here's a link I thought was interesting and something worth reading.

10 myths about school shootings.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15111438/

[FireFreek]

in my opinion the worst thing about this event, the son of a bitch killed 32 people then killed himself. why not spare the innocent and just take your own life.

guns kill people.

[almostsk8er33]

^^ No they don't. People do. Guns don't work by themselves. They need someone or something to work it.

[.pie.]

You people think that's disturbing...

Here's a video that made me want to puke.

you make me want to puke. that had nothing to do with the topic.

the fact that the school didnt cancel classes after the first shooting is just outrageous.

as for a video that actually has to do with the shootings
http://youtube.com/watch?v=asWfaQVvCD8

[Sk8 Shorty's]

^^^ yeah i saw that video already on CNN, its to blurry and the guy moves to much to see whats going on :\

[novascotiaskate]

What a waste of life. What a coward.
Peace and much love to the families, students, and especially, the survivors.

One can only hope that the children of today will learn from the mistakes of yesterday...

[.pie.]

The way they kick it shows their blatant carenessness and indifference to the loss of a human life.
a.) it was a suicide bomber. im pretty sure it was his goal to end human life. the people kicking his head have a good reason to. anyway, if i were a soldier and i saw a suicide bomber's head on the street, i wouldnt want to pick it up. therefore, i'd use my foot.

b.) i do in fact find "that" (the shooting) disturbing. and trying to compare it to a random clip of someone's head is moronic. especially if you're trying to "one up" an incident like this.

c.) its still totally irrelevant

d.) i want a sandwich.



on another note, im sure this whole thing will stir up another videogame/explicit music controversy.

IE. jack thompson

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/09/11/violent_games_cause_violence/

[jcsethi]

How can someones mind be so ****ed

I like to think that God has done this for a reason but I can't even come close to thinking of that reason

[GrizzledJASPER]

Really sad day. I have a friend that goes to VT. It's crazy to think how sudden and randomly you could lose someone close to you, or eve your own life. Thoughts and prayers go out to all of those affected.

[Miniflipkid]

Thanks Grizzled or whoever who deleted Greecy_DC's post.

Greecy_DC, go eat shit.

[skateblank714]

on another note, im sure this whole thing will stir up another videogame/explicit music controversy.

IE. jack thompson

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/09/11/violent_games_cause_violence/

wow, its horrible that their already trying to use this tragedy to their advatages in the "fight against video games". these ****ers smile anytime someone gets shoot, and the shooter says "i was only playing gta".

anyways, this whole insident is ****ed up, and i heard about it a while ago but it sort of took a while to hit me. i just cant imagine what it would be like if someone i loved had been there.

[Poser Park]

Ah...well it seems that our favorite Christian group, the Westboro Baptist Church, is going to attend the funerals of the dead students...not out of respect, but out of hate.
http://www.godhatesamerica.com/

I'm going to laugh when those freaks are all gunned down by an angry parent.

[minervo]

Ah...well it seems that our favorite Christian group, the Westboro Baptist Church, is going to attend the funerals of the dead students...not out of respect, but out of hate.
http://www.godhatesamerica.com/

I'm going to laugh when those freaks are all gunned down by an angry parent.

Oh man, this is the last thing America and those greiving over their loss need. Seriously, don't those brainwashed fools have any sympathy whatsoever?

On another note, why was my other post deleted?

[CYNnaMdlO]

Virginia State Police are no joke. they will have the Westbooob Baptists penned in a half mile away.

No Respect. society is pretty much f'd today.
i just hope the parents, friends and family don't have to come in contact with the WBC ***holes.

[Mr.42]

"He chained the doors shut"

^That is terrifying.

Man, 2 1/2 hours?!? He probably killed himself cause he was tired of waiting for the police!

[minervo]

Virginia State Police are no joke. they will have the Westbooob Baptists penned in a half mile away.

No Respect. society is pretty much f'd today.
i just hope the parents, friends and family don't have to come in contact with the WBC ***holes.

Actually, society is no worse now than it ever was. In fact, society is getting better imo.

[crazy_dave]

I cant believe those sob's from Westboro Baptist Church are gonna be there. Someone please, if you live in Virginia, smack some shit into them.

Thoughts to the families suffering from this awful event.

Nice to see you back .pie.

[Miniflipkid]

society is pretty much f'd today.



You are ignorant.

[psycoskater]

Scary to think I live about 10 minutes away from the shooting that happened in Utah about a month ago. Now this shit happens accross the country, we are in a ****ed up world. People like that simply should not be alive, I feel bad for everyone that involved, the familes of the victims and the shooter's family.

Hopefully a shooting of that magnitud doesn't happen again, and I hope I'm never involved in something like that.

[Greecy_DC]

you make me want to puke. that had nothing to do with the topic.

the fact that the school didnt cancel classes after the first shooting is just outrageous.

as for a video that actually has to do with the shootings
http://youtube.com/watch?v=asWfaQVvCD8

This is coming from an LP fan, this topic is started about death and travesty, I don't see how you could not find that related, the only thing off-topic is your twatish reply.. I'm not surprised the video was removed from this forum specifically, but to the people reacting like I didn't warn them just let your arrogence kill you slowly. :-41:

[saikouslx]

The identity of the shooter was revealed. I saw it in te papers this morning as i dleivered them. And i began tothink about this whole thing, My prayers to go out to the victims as their deaths were unecessary and should have never happened and i hope the victims will rest in peace.

However for the actual killer, His name was Cho something. The articles had bits from his suicide note, and as i mysteriously as i delivered these papers with his face on i began to realise how he did such a terrible thing. Don't get me wrong i condemn his actions, but just think what had to happen to this individual, to make him so desperate, sick and twisted to be able to go to VT and then just shoot 32 poeple. I mean he really must have had some severe bullying, i cant quote his suicide note but i remeber that it showed that he had been severly bullied. He said (this was also the headline on The Times) "you made me do this". And i think that something has to be learnt from this. That bullying someone can actually kill you, because in this case the victim got tired off his life and wanted revenge.

It was extremly unfortuante that random studetns were gunned down and killed, and i sincerely hope that they find peace as do the families and that they are able to come to term withj their loved ones deats, my prayers really go out to them.

And lets hope this never happens again aywhere.

p.s. i thing that church group will actually be shot if they turn up.

[Snaker]

He wasn't bullied. He came over from Vietnam in like '99, and during his whole time at VT, he always stuck to himself. He was always violent; his creative writing and plays were sick and twisted. A few people who knew him had even made a joke about him shooting people; and now it's come true.

[FireFreek]

I hope this event makes everyone realize how important it is the say goodbye and I love you to your loved ones before you run off to school in the morning. you never know when something could happen to you or your friends/family. none of these people got the chance to say goodbye.

[Sk8 Shorty's]

I hope this event makes everyone realize how important it is the say goodbye and I love you to your loved ones before you run off to school in the morning. you never know when something could happen to you or your friends/family. none of these people got the chance to say goodbye.


i hope it does to, and i also hope that people realize how valuable life really is. You could be living and be all happy one second, and the next, just gone, just like that, and u wont ever come back.

Those families that have to live through this pain and suffering wont EVER see the one they loved that was killed in the massacre.
Someone they loved, who wasn't even halfway through the life they would of gone through if they weren't killed, was killed, their life ended, and just taken away unexpectedly.

Life is way to short, life can easily be gone just like that, just in a split second it can be gone.

I hope people realize that they should live each day as its your last, live each day being happy, do stuff u want and love to do, cause u never know, someday soon, or the next day, or in any minute, it could all be gone.


"The dead they sleep a long, long sleep;
The dead they rest, and their rest is deep;
The dead have peace, but the living weep."

[.pie.]

This is coming from an LP fan, this topic is started about death and travesty, I don't see how you could not find that related, the only thing off-topic is your twatish reply.. I'm not surprised the video was removed from this forum specifically, but to the people reacting like I didn't warn them just let your arrogence kill you slowly. :-41:
i couldnt find a relation because your video was of a soldier kicking the head of a dead guy in the middle east, whereas this is some college student who shot a bunch of people in Virginia because he was ****ed in the head.

and btw, it was LB, not LP. and dont tell me you never sang along to "nookie" when you were 10.

and how can you ever give warning to anyone over the internet about something theyre going to show? i thought by disturbing you meant you were posting a video of the footage that they had of the shootings when it was going on.

[China Skate]

He wasn't bullied. He came over from Vietnam in like '99, and during his whole time at VT, he always stuck to himself. He was always violent; his creative writing and plays were sick and twisted. A few people who knew him had even made a joke about him shooting people; and now it's come true.
I'm pretty sure it was '92.

[Sk8 Shorty's]

I'm pretty sure it was '92.

yeah it was 92' and he was 8 when he came over

[Blind Sheppard]

Read what Skaterat posted, the papers don't want a normal man to be a killer of couse they'll claim he was sick and twisted. He's doing creative writing for ****s sake of course he'll do some sick stories it's part of the course.

I feel sorry not only for the dead, family and friends but also the killer because noone knows what went on for him. I think it was hrrific what happened but it doesn't explain why he did it.

[jcsethi]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6570241.stm he sent a package to NBC tv station containing a video a note and pictures of him pointing the guns at the cameras

this link show an excerpt from the letter
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6570369.stm



I live 4 hours away from the college

[FireFreek]

Blind, this guy was not a normal dude. A normal guy does not go on a killing rampage and shoot and kill 32 people.

this has been a a tough few years for us that live in Virginia. First was 9/11 (yeah I know it was in DC but close enough) then the sniper shootings. Now this.

http://www.thrashskate.com/movies/Memorial.mov I thought this was kinda a appropriate video for this topic, it was posted on Skateperception awhile ago, very inspiring.

[CYNnaMdlO]

You are ignorant.

pretty much the opposite.
i am stating that i know society is f'd.
if i stated that society isn't f'd... that would be ignorant.

trust me my friend... i live in a reality most people would not want to endure.

it is a sad truth, but society is f'd.

take a look at the video.
this guy portrayed himself as a suicide bomber would.

he reads his script like they do.
the wearing of the tac vest, and stating lines almost like a prayer.
warped.

[Sk8 Shorty's]

Even if he was bullied, it doesn't mean he should of been a pussy and taken innocent lives that didn't bully on him.

Just because he had anger in him from people that might of bullied on him, it doesn't mean he should of gotten the handguns and shot the 33 people that he shot.

He could of easily switched schools if he didn't feel like he could handle the bullying anymore, if there was any at all.

Just because your bullied, its no excuse to take the life of someone that bullied you, or especially people that were innocent, didn't bully, nice, and really good people.

EDIT: you can watch the video here on CNN... http://www.cnn.com/

[yugifan109]

This really made me puke.

The killer (between the shootings) made and sent a video to NBC about why he did the killings.

http://video.msn.com/v/us/v.htm?g=925BC281-CE20-439E-9682-8CC58066B2BF&t=c3557&f=06/64&p=hotvideo_m_vatech&fg=&GT1=9246

I've already heard them talking about video games being the problem but he didn't play any so haha. :P

[SlimJim_junky]

Blind, this guy was not a normal dude. A normal guy does not go on a killing rampage and shoot and kill 32 people.
Like Mellon said, we don't know what it was like for him. He could have been as normal as you and I. He half-ass explained why he did it, but still... There are so many things we don't know about.

Right away, people say "That dude's crazy" or "He's f*cked up in the head." They won't even consider the fact that he could have been a normal person with a short fuse, pushed to the limit.

[saikouslx]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6570241.stm he sent a package to NBC tv station containing a video a note and pictures of him pointing the guns at the cameras

this link show an excerpt from the letter
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6570369.stm


wow... i retract everything i said. He was a crazy dickmunch. Thanks for clearing it up, and also snaker as well.

Im just disgusted.

[-noxi-]

as i saw the church thing on top,

they were outside of my school yesterday and so much gay shit went down, funny.

but this dude was like crazed as shit. i guarentee if he was northern korean america would try to go to war with them.

[Greecy_DC]

i couldnt find a relation because your video was of a soldier kicking the head of a dead guy in the middle east, whereas this is some college student who shot a bunch of people in Virginia because he was ****ed in the head.

and btw, it was LB, not LP. and dont tell me you never sang along to "nookie" when you were 10.

and how can you ever give warning to anyone over the internet about something theyre going to show? i thought by disturbing you meant you were posting a video of the footage that they had of the shootings when it was going on.

I think you mean why was I generous enough to make a longass warning and in the meantime you disregarding it completely and to throw you're garbage of verbal masturbation at me, well I say **** you personally, oh maybe I should've added a warning. :-4:

And btw LB was/is as bad as Backstreet Boys or Eminem.

[Mr.42]

I'm having a hard time taking this thread seriously, cause "Virginia" looks kinda like "vagina".

[rankz]

I just read in that paper that Cho had been questioned by police TWICE for stalking girls, way back in December 2005. Nothing came of it and later he told a friend how he wants to commit suicide, then he was dealt with by psychiatrists for his depression. But because of confidentuality laws he was not reported to the college for his treatment. He was known for taking pictures of random girls who wore skirts of revealing tops on the campus and was known as a threat for sometime before the killings.
I still can't belive the scale of this.

[Blind Sheppard]

Blind, this guy was not a normal dude. A normal guy does not go on a killing rampage and shoot and kill 32 people.

this has been a a tough few years for us that live in Virginia. First was 9/11 (yeah I know it was in DC but close enough) then the sniper shootings. Now this.

http://www.thrashskate.com/movies/Memorial.mov I thought this was kinda a appropriate video for this topic, it was posted on Skateperception awhile ago, very inspiring.

Sorry but America and the world as a whole wants a psycho. I ddint' condone in anyway what he did and it is disgusting and think there has to be a certain amount wrong with you to do it but i guarantee if any of you did anything like this they could dig up things about you. I've had times in my life where i was depressed and couldn't stand anything but i guarantee if that was in the paper it would be turned to suicidal, hateful and i was a manic depressive.

I have huge amoutns of sorrow for the people who were killed, their familes and friends and the people of Virginia as a whole but i feel sorry for someone like him who was pushed to this. I doubt most of you have ever had school counselling or anything like that it doesn't help you in anyway and anti depressants are not the answer to someones problems.

[Sk8 Shorty's]

I have huge amoutns of sorrow for the people who were killed, their familes and friends and the people of Virginia as a whole but i feel sorry for someone like him who was pushed to this. I doubt most of you have ever had school counselling or anything like that it doesn't help you in anyway and anti depressants are not the answer to someones problems.

yeah i feel bad for that theres a possibility he was pushed and bullied on.
but seriously, u don't have to ****ing kill people over your emotions.
He had no right killing innocent people cause of how he felt or how he was treated. The least he could of done was kill the people that bullied him. but no he killed 32 innocent lives and injured 20 something others that had nothing to do with him.
Just because your bullied doesn't mean u need to go and take some action. he could of moved on and transfered or just took it like a man and moved on.

Killing people cause u get bullied is just plain wrong, especially the innocent people that have nothing to do with you.

[.pie.]

I think you mean why was I generous enough to make a longass warning and in the meantime you disregarding it completely and to throw you're garbage of verbal masturbation at me, well I say **** you personally, oh maybe I should've added a warning. :-4:

And btw LB was/is as bad as Backstreet Boys or Eminem.

whatever. its not a big deal. i just happen to think that it was retarded.

and im sure you listened to AWSOME music when you were 10 :rolleyes:

[novascotiaskate]

Ah...well it seems that our favorite Christian group, the Westboro Baptist Church, is going to attend the funerals of the dead students...not out of respect, but out of hate.
http://www.godhatesamerica.com/

After reading their website, if God hates America so much, why do they stay. What a bunch of retards.
God doesn't hate America, God hates hypocrites.

[Blind Sheppard]

yeah i feel bad for that theres a possibility he was pushed and bullied on.
but seriously, u don't have to ****ing kill people over your emotions.
He had no right killing innocent people cause of how he felt or how he was treated. The least he could of done was kill the people that bullied him. but no he killed 32 innocent lives and injured 20 something others that had nothing to do with him.
Just because your bullied doesn't mean u need to go and take some action. he could of moved on and transfered or just took it like a man and moved on.

Killing people cause u get bullied is just plain wrong, especially the innocent people that have nothing to do with you.
Did i say it was justified...no?

I'm not going to bother explaining myself again. If you hate a man you never met and can't show any sympathy, go for it. I have sympathy for him and especially his family AND before you say it anyone involved in any way.

It's not a nice topic so i'm going to leave it but i think you need to think about who's responsible for making him do this. Noone deserved it but i guarantee if he'd hung himself due to bullying there would have been loads of messages along the lines of i hope the people who bully him die or whatever.

Your a fickle lot.

[Sk8 Shorty's]

Did i say it was justified...no?

I'm not going to bother explaining myself again. If you hate a man you never met and can't show any sympathy, go for it. I have sympathy for him and especially his family AND before you say it anyone involved in any way.

It's not a nice topic so i'm going to leave it but i think you need to think about who's responsible for making him do this. Noone deserved it but i guarantee if he'd hung himself due to bullying there would have been loads of messages along the lines of i hope the people who bully him die or whatever.

Your a fickle lot.


I dont change my mind alot.
and still yeah i do have sympathy for him cause of what pressure was built on him cause of bullying, but no matter what, there was still no reason for him to do what he did, especially killing and injuring innocent people.

[China Skate]

He didn't tell his own roommates what major he was studying.

[FireFreek]

its not really worth arguing about whether he was mentally ill or not, he is dead now and no one can make assumptions.

everyone has their own opinion though.

[Greecy_DC]

whatever. its not a big deal. i just happen to think that it was retarded.

and im sure you listened to AWSOME music when you were 10 :rolleyes:

You know it. :-13:

Anyway happy 420.

[Blind Sheppard]

He didn't tell his own roommates what major he was studying.
My best friends don't know what lessons i do at college, put me in a padded cell.

[saikouslx]

yeh what i was trying to say early is the same point blind sheppard is trying to make pretty much. Its sad how society made him feel the hate that he did. He vented it wrongly and unjustly.

[SkatingTillDead]

Did i say it was justified...no?

I'm not going to bother explaining myself again. If you hate a man you never met and can't show any sympathy, go for it. I have sympathy for him and especially his family AND before you say it anyone involved in any way.

It's not a nice topic so i'm going to leave it but i think you need to think about who's responsible for making him do this. Noone deserved it but i guarantee if he'd hung himself due to bullying there would have been loads of messages along the lines of i hope the people who bully him die or whatever.

Your a fickle lot.

I completely agree with the sympathy part . Somehow everyone of us are rapists , child molestors , and murderers , its the ones that enjoy it that you hear on the news . And yes , they are sick and twisted but thats who they are , and nothing can change that , They love what they do , And in the end they'll die most likely doing what they did best , Look at Cho or John Couey .

[Greecy_DC]

whatever. its not a big deal. i just happen to think that it was retarded.

and im sure you listened to AWSOME music when you were 10 :rolleyes:

Yeah also you could at least put a temp warning since I went out of my way to warn you people twice. Bad judgement on both parts but why make it worse? :-9:

[giantsfan7791]

Did i say it was justified...no?

I'm not going to bother explaining myself again. If you hate a man you never met and can't show any sympathy, go for it. I have sympathy for him and especially his family AND before you say it anyone involved in any way.

It's not a nice topic so i'm going to leave it but i think you need to think about who's responsible for making him do this. Noone deserved it but i guarantee if he'd hung himself due to bullying there would have been loads of messages along the lines of i hope the people who bully him die or whatever.

Your a fickle lot.
if he did kill himself, everyone would have a different attitude. im not giving him an excuse for what he did but while the media is out to create a monster, i just see someone who was pushed too far. two of the 32 people that died went to his high school. if he had stopped at those to people, i would understand why he did it, as would you. he did take it too far though.

[bmmetcalf]

After reading their website, if God hates America so much, why do they stay. What a bunch of retards.
God doesn't hate America, God hates hypocrites.
I think those people believe that because of political veiws that they disagree with. They target Bush and the war alot.

[.pie.]

Yeah also you could at least put a temp warning since I went out of my way to warn you people twice. Bad judgement on both parts but why make it worse? :-9:

??? i didnt put any warning on anyone

[marleyfan0]

Yeah I live like an hour away from that pretty scary but now there is soo much local support with donations and gaint cards shirts/hoodies being worn and cars/ houses decortated vt style idk if it's just where I live or not but there is a shit load of support

[jcsethi]

ya i live in virginia to a lot of support around here aswell

[Greecy_DC]

??? i didnt put any warning on anyone

Bah w/e forget it, Blind's good judgement. :-37:

After reading their website, if God hates America so much, why do they stay. What a bunch of retards.
God doesn't hate America, God hates hypocrites.

+1 >.<

[Ramp]