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[Fire_Freek]

http://www.venturacountystar.com/news/2007/jun/08/skateboardings-a-competitive-sport-high-school/

this is the start of highschools that have skateteams with practices everyday after school and sk8 jocks. kill me:mad: :mad: :mad:

SKATEBOARDING IS NOT A SPORT AND NEVER LET IT BE

[Super_Skater]

More proof that skating is going downhill.

[Tex202]

skateboarding is dying and the cure cannot be found

[-noxi-]

mike mos from simi
tight

[spenser]

skateboarding is a sport. its not a "team" sport like football or whatever, but its a sport. thats like saying biking isnt a sport.

its a recreational activity, basically. fishing can be for sport, running, swimming, hiking....

skateboarding IS a sport.

[Tex202]

the thing about sports is, theres rules

to win, you must make a basket/score a goal/score a touchdown

theres an objective: win

but skateboardings the complete opposite

no rules, no way of winning or losing

I think jerry Hsu said it best:

"It sounds cheesy, but skateboarding is a way of expressing yourself"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UI5CVQYLaQ

[TrAnCe]

FWAHAHAHAHAHAHA I rather laugh at that than eminem laughs at gay clubs.

[mcwattersm]

the thing about sports is, theres rules

to win, you must make a basket/score a goal/score a touchdown

theres an objective: win

but skateboardings the complete opposite

no rules, no way of winning or losing

I think jerry Hsu said it best:

"It sounds cheesy, but skateboarding is a way of expressing yourself"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UI5CVQYLaQ

X-Games? Local Comps?

[I_Eat_Emo_Kids]

Skateboarding doesn't fit the criteria of a sport. There's no winning or losing, there's no rules. You make of it what you want, which is not the case with sports.

Now who gives a ****, skatings going downhill, blah blah, as long as it's still fun for you it's not going downhill.

[psycoskater]

You can make a sport out of anything now a days.

Deal with it, times change and so is skateboarding. If you love the sport so much quit bitching about all the changes and go do your thing.

I think this is a great idea, its giving skaters a different opportunity to get exposure, train, and enjoy the element of skateboarding. If anything this is the next chapter of skateboarding; if this grows throughout the country things will change... As to what directions they go, only time can tell.

[Tex202]

X-Games? Local Comps?

those are thing that are making skating a sport

skateboarding is like painting

at its core its all about self expression and having fun

but its still turned into contests and done for money and such

skateboarding CAN be a sport, but it shouldnt be

[luckysk8er1991]

why is everyone so against skateboarding "becoming" a sport? and seriously, no one has problems with x games and tampa am/pro until people start talking about how skateboarding involves comps like that and then every one is like omg that totally suxorz. everyone needs to stop being dumb.

[snow_skate]

It's an EXTREME Sport. but i still think this is gay

[PopwarPunk]

This reminds me of that Disney channel movie, "BRINK!" hahaha

[Slyde]

Speaking in technical terms, skating IS a sport.

I think what is angering you fellas is not that it is 'becoming a sport", but the fact that it is becoming mainstream by the mass.

My stand on this is to fear not. The media will move on and find the next thing that can earn them money, and if not, then so what? If the individual enjoys truly doing it than nothing really has gone downhill. Many folks play Football, love it, even though it is mainstream and all. Why can't the same pertain to skateboarding?

Plus look at the brightside, maybe some more decent parks will be built right?

Peace and Love, John.
Power to the People!

[danmorris778]

X-Games? Local Comps?

Different ways of trying to advertise/commercialise skating. Real skating, your local park/spot, doesn't involve competition of any sort, it's get your tricks done in whichever way/time suits you :) lol. I'm a hipocrite though cuz I love watching them ;)

[Krinksy]

those are thing that are making skating a sport

skateboarding is like painting

at its core its all about self expression and having fun

but its still turned into contests and done for money and such

skateboarding CAN be a sport, but it shouldnt be

Yeah it CAN be about self expression, like painting, but come one, everyone here just does tricks that other people invented and that have been done about a million times before.

The only real thing that you actually do for yourself is pick which obstacle to do the trick on.

It's only really self expression if you're doing a trick that you invented.

[gmgsci]

It could encourage a lot of people to begin skateboarding, think about some of the positive sides.

[Slyde]

Yeah it CAN be about self expression, like painting, but come one, everyone here just does tricks that other people invented and that have been done about a million times before.

The only real thing that you actually do for yourself is pick which obstacle to do the trick on.

It's only really self expression if you're doing a trick that you invented.
Not necessarily.

The style of skating is also a form of expression.
You can break free from street-skating and develop your own style, or fuse others.

William Spencer, 'nuff said.

[AlmostJeff]

Everyone has a different view on this, and people have different reasons for skating. As far as I care they are still skating making them one of "us" and to make fun of them is to make fun of yourself. I picture skating as an art in the fact that you have nothing in front of you a blank canvas (art) or an empty parking lot (skating) and you create something to give yourself or others that view it satisfaction. Quit arguing over pointless bullshit like this, skate, and don't worry about what everyone else does. What my mom always used to tell me "quit being nosey."

[Tex202]

Yeah it CAN be about self expression, like painting, but come one, everyone here just does tricks that other people invented and that have been done about a million times before.

The only real thing that you actually do for yourself is pick which obstacle to do the trick on.

It's only really self expression if you're doing a trick that you invented.

your basically saying that the kickflips i do are exactly the same as kickflips rodney mullen does

everyones got their own style and way of doing things

[Krinksy]

^^^Yeah you're kickflips are not the exact same as rodney mullens but they are pretty close. I mean, style can only change so much.


Not necessarily.

The style of skating is also a form of expression.
You can break free from street-skating and develop your own style, or fuse others.

William Spencer, 'nuff said.

Yeah William spencer is one of the very few that actually do something new.

I think skateboarding can be a form of expression but for most people it's not.

[TrAnCe]

^^^Yeah you're kickflips are not the exact same as rodney mullens but they are pretty close. I mean, style can only change so much.




Yeah William spencer is one of the very few that actually do something new.

I think skateboarding can be a form of expression but for most people it's not.
Thats right. For many people, skateboaridng is back ot school, the gum their parents would never chew, or umm next years grey. Skateboard teams are just more proof that skateboarding as wew know it is going down the drain.

But style can "only change so much?" wtf is wrong wit chu man? Dustin Dollin & Jake Duncombe. nuff said I hope.

[Tex202]

Now the z-boys they had style man

back then, thats all it was about

i think when skateboarding rapture comes, jay adams will descend from the heavens....

[Krinksy]

But style can "only change so much?" wtf is wrong wit chu man? Dustin Dollin & Jake Duncombe. nuff said I hope.

It's true, there's only so many ways it's possible to ride a skateboard and therefore, only so many different styles.

I appreciate the fact that peoples styles are different, but what I'm trying to say is that they aren't that different.

It's all still riding a skateboard and the style of doing that can only change so much.

[Tex202]

It's true, there's only so many ways it's possible to ride a skateboard and therefore, only so many different styles.

I appreciate the fact that peoples styles are different, but what I'm trying to say is that they aren't that different.

It's all still riding a skateboard and the style of doing that can only change so much.

theres infinite ways to ride a skateboard

its unlimited

just like painting

[skateblank714]

theres infinite ways to ride a skateboard

its unlimited

just like painting

jesus christ dude, stop with that pretentious bullshit will ya. call it what you want but in the end, skateboarding is nothing more than a sport, it just depends on what you make of it. a soccer player can do all kinds of crazy shit with a soccerball, some hippies might call it an art, so those soccer stop being a sport... id throw in a definition of a "sport" to make my point seem more valid, but im to lazy, so ill stop there

peace and chicken wings
funky times

[Tex202]

jesus christ dude, stop with that pretentious bullshit will ya. call it what you want but in the end, skateboarding is nothing more than a sport, it just depends on what you make of it. a soccer player can do all kinds of crazy shit with a soccerball, some hippies might call it an art, so those soccer stop being a sport... id throw in a definition of a "sport" to make my point seem more valid, but im to lazy, so ill stop there

peace and chicken wings
funky times

i can see where your coming from man and maybe im making it more than what it is

but calling skateboarding a sport just doesnt seem right

just skate and have fun

[-noxi-]

jesus christ dude, stop with that pretentious bullshit will ya. call it what you want but in the end, skateboarding is nothing more than a sport, it just depends on what you make of it. a soccer player can do all kinds of crazy shit with a soccerball, some hippies might call it an art, so those soccer stop being a sport... id throw in a definition of a "sport" to make my point seem more valid, but im to lazy, so ill stop there

peace and chicken wings
funky times
thank you

sport /spɔrt, spoʊrt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[spawrt, spohrt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.
2. a particular form of this, esp. in the out of doors.
3. diversion; recreation; pleasant pastime.

[shortty]

skateboarding is a sport... xgames... es game of skate

[Tex202]

thank you

sport /spɔrt, spoʊrt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[spawrt, spohrt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.
2. a particular form of this, esp. in the out of doors.
3. diversion; recreation; pleasant pastime.

ya thats true, i do have a diffrent defention of sport, which i guess i should consider

sorry

[Slyde]

peace and chicken wings
funky times

Lol, that's a catchy sig my friend. ;)

ya thats true, i do have a diffrent defention of sport, which i guess i should consider

sorry

No, you didn't have a different definition of a sport, so there is nothing to consider.

You simply felt the need to apologize because other people told you you were going out of hand.

Screw that. I have reason to believe you still don't sincerely consider skating a sport, and if that's the way you feel, stand up for it. Stand until your legs no longer can.

Peace and Love, John.
We all shine on

[FrontsideBack]

Who cares what it is, just skate.

[TrAnCe]

It's true, there's only so many ways it's possible to ride a skateboard and therefore, only so many different styles.

(croinges) magic flips and kickflips. helloooo theres fifty thousand million ways to art on a skateboard. and what about skate lines? kickflip front blunt shows a different personality to a dude with kickflip back blunts. Theres no limits to expression on a skateboard.

[Krinksy]

(croinges) magic flips and kickflips. helloooo theres fifty thousand million ways to art on a skateboard. and what about skate lines? kickflip front blunt shows a different personality to a dude with kickflip back blunts. Theres no limits to expression on a skateboard.

I disagree, kickflip front blunts and kickflip back blunts are nothing to do with you're personality it's simply what you enjoy doing more or what you think looks cooler.

An art is supposed to convey emotion and change feelings, skating doesn't do this and therefore it's not an art.

[af1 1982]

The whole controversy with skating for money is explained best by Paul Rodriguez. He said that people have to make livings and why not do it by doing something you love.

[yoda_emo]

who cares..it's a lame idea but that doesn't mean everybody has to start debating and quoting from dictionarys and stuff

this forum is dying

[cordell]

You guys are all right. Most of you.
People all skate differently, like Tony hawk, rodney mullen, mike vallely, everyone.
Its a compitition and everything. Plus, it was considered being added to the olympics. like snowboarding, but if snowboardings a sport skateboarding is too.
Skateboarding is an action sport. Football is and organized sport. Action SPORT, organized SPORT. See what i mean?

[Tex202]

Lol, that's a catchy sig my friend. ;)



No, you didn't have a different definition of a sport, so there is nothing to consider.

You simply felt the need to apologize because other people told you you were going out of hand.

Screw that. I have reason to believe you still don't sincerely consider skating a sport, and if that's the way you feel, stand up for it. Stand until your legs no longer can.

Peace and Love, John.
We all shine on

actually yes i do have a different detention of sport

a sport has limits and a common goal
you can win a sport
the only way you win skateboarding is having fun
no goals no objectives

unlike a sport which ahs objectives
scoring goals, making touchdowns, etc.

and i apologised cause i went back and saw what i wrote and realised i didnt put much thought into it at all

happy?

i know i am

:-47:

[MeLike2Skate]

damn. of course nike is sponsoring them, all nike does for skateboarding is ruin it.

[juggle]

I dont know it will be cool with a bunch of competitions. Id hate to compete against a shcool though like you wouldn't win anything.
Skateboarding is not really a sport, its like an activity and a lifestyle for some. The only reason I say its not a sport is because their is no winner or loser.

-thank you

[Tex202]

i think something like a skateboarding club would be cooler. Just some skaters getting together know and then to skate and have fun. maybe local parks could organize events/completions that help benefit charity and have the diffrent clubs compete

[almostsk8er33]

damn. of course nike is sponsoring them, all nike does for skateboarding is ruin it.


Shut the **** up.

[-noxi-]

damn. of course nike is sponsoring them, all nike does for skateboarding is ruin it.
ignorant as f--k

go look at old footage, they wear nikes. nike was used for skating for a looooongggg time.

gino ianucci has skated them for so damn long.

[Dookie416]

i think skateboarding on the school team sounds like a cool idea, but skateboarding is a lot different from team sports. the only thing i can see in a skateboarding contest is best run, or best trick, whatever. and i don't see how you can compete against a team in skateboarding either. oh well. just skate. regardless of what spenser says and everyone with the whole idea of skateboarding being a sport, i disagree, i think it is a way of self-expression and creativity, and just seeing what you can do with it. some of you may disagree and scream at me, but i guess that's just an opinion.

[yoda_emo]

it seems like a strange idea but i know if i had to choose from normal sports and skating I'd choose to skate during school hours...but the after school training is just gay

alot of the schools around me just send around 20 students to the skatepark instead of sports-it's good...but they make us wear helmets pads ect

[luckysk8er1991]

ive read a few posts in this thread and i dont know where this has gone exactly since the last time i posted in it, but i think that everyone is just afraid of it becoming "mainstream" because they dont want the competition. everyone is just scared that some prep might get good and take their spot on a pro team. why else would anyone care? i dont know. everyone should think of this as a good thing. more kids to kill in skate.

edit: oh and why is no one talking s*** about the video games like SKATE and tony hawk games? there is a crap load more people that start skating because they thought it was cool on a video game. thats whats making it "mainstream". i know i started because of video games. everyone needs to just chill.

edit again: everyone that is talking about how skating becoming a sport and mainstream is sending it down the drain, you are sending this site down the drain.

[TrAnCe]

what you think looks cooler.

An art is supposed to convey emotion and change feelings, skating doesn't do this and therefore it's not an art.
p rod does nothing for me. Dustin Dollin gets me excited. Theres every style in between. Document every different style of skateboarding, and I'll say you're right, and theres only so many ways to draw on canvas




SKATEBOARDING is a thing which pushes conceptions; a thing which invents, which stretches, turns heads, and quietly eats at the core of pop cultural theories from the inside. Bachinsky didnt flip el toro for fun, recreation, or for exercise. he pushed the limits of what we call "possible" and "probable".

That, my friends, is art, not sport.

[Krinksy]

p rod does nothing for me. Dustin Dollin gets me excited. Theres every style in between. Document every different style of skateboarding, and I'll say you're right, and theres only so many ways to draw on canvas




SKATEBOARDING is a thing which pushes conceptions; a thing which invents, which stretches, turns heads, and quietly eats at the core of pop cultural theories from the inside. Bachinsky didnt flip el toro for fun, recreation, or for exercise. he pushed the limits of what we call "possible" and "probable".

That, my friends, is art, not sport.

Bachinsky flipped el toro because he could, same with anything, it's human nature to want to push the boundaries, not just skating.

An art can change a random persons feelings and emotions, even if they have never seen or heard it before.

I highly doubt that an outsider, someone who has never skated or been interested in it will be able to watch a skater and have their emotions or feelings changed, they will just think "A skateboarder, cool"

Maybe a skater might be able to see what you say is the "art" in skating, but an are like painting or music is supposed to be able to change anyone's feelings, not just musicians or painters.

[luckysk8er1991]

skateboarding is what you make of it. stop trying to define it.

[danmorris778]

and i don't see how you can compete against a team in skateboarding either. oh well. just skate.
Well, you could line each team up on each side of a court...and lauch them into eachother....on a court full of pebbles.
Goal: First team whose members fall over first loses.

NOW THERE is a SPORT!

And everyone needs to calm down seriously.....skateboarding is what you make it...some turn it into a sport, some tur it into fun...whatever you do with it is your choice. If you wanna go into comps, go for it, YOU ARE STILL SKATING. If you wanna skate at your park, go for it, YOU ARE STILL SKATING. As long as you have your feet on a board it's skating, sport or not it's all the same thing.

And don't you DARE disagree with me or I will rip you ankles off.

[TrAnCe]

I highly doubt that an outsider, someone who has never skated or been interested in it will be able to watch a skater and have their emotions or feelings changed, they will just think "A skateboarder, cool"

Maybe a skater might be able to see what you say is the "art" in skating, but an are like painting or music is supposed to be able to change anyone's feelings, not just musicians or painters.
pfft.

What passing bells for those who die as cattle?
only the monstrous angers of the guns, only the rifles rapid rattle can pater out their hasty orisons.

if you dont know poetic english, that doesnt mean shit to you. Just like the mona lisa doesnt mean shit to me. exactly how skateboarding doesnt mean shit to normal people. only the educated understand.

go watch some Jake Rupp skating then come talk to me if you "truly" believe skatboaridings style is limited.

ps; Dustin Dollin mad changes my emotions.

[Fire_Freek]

why is this wrong? because you can not compete in skateboarding, everyone thinks a certain trick is better. one person thinks a clean ollie looks better than a shitty tre flip. there will be judges that say " oh yeah that trick had one more flip than that one, its better"

this will turn skateboarding into a contest everywhere, people wont be skating for fun but they will be skating so they can win.

[MeLike2Skate]

Shut the **** up.
thats a tad imature, when noxi posted right after you and had some points about what i said.

[-noxi-]

i wasnt backing you up dude
i was backing up almostsk8er33

[giantsfan7791]

Well, you could line each team up on each side of a court...and lauch them into eachother....on a court full of pebbles.
Goal: First team whose members fall over first loses.

NOW THERE is a SPORT!
agreed, but i would be the record-holder for most falls in a season though.

and everyone does need to calm down. i'm all for skating becoming more mainstream. it would bring more people into this awesome "sport" and give them a chance to fall in love with it. i played tony hawk long before i started skating, then stopped playing, then started skating, and then played tony hawk a lot after i started. it helped me develop a passion for skating (plus, it taught me the names of a lot of tricks).

what i'm against is people watching x-games a lot and never even hearing of almost's round 3. i think espn should advertise skate videos more and current skaters, like ryan sheckler, should stop being so obsessed with competition and get back to making videos again. that would show people the true aspects of skateboarding and inspire them to start.

the "sport" aspect of it will grab their attention but watching the videos and playing the games will make them want to try it, which should be all of our's goal. and think of this, the more that people know about skating through watching, the better of they'll be in identifieing a *****, the less they'll like *****s, and the more that *****s will try something else to be cool.

[Ramp]