Cannabis to be reclassified To Class B in UK

[saikouslx]

Firstly i noe the subject of drugs is sorta dodgy on the forum. But the reason i am posting this is to see what people think about the POLICY, not the drug. Here's the article:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article3156255.ece

To be honest if the government is really worried about our health, then they should take it into their own hands. Make drugs legal so that they stop all this dealer bullsh*t. Crime would definitely drop and they would be able to control the strains. I mean tabacco is readily availble, so no one bothers growing their own tabacco do they? Pushing it up to Class B is only going to make the overcrowded prisons, more overcrowded. Also cannabis use has dropped since it was reclassified to C. I dont like Gordon Brown anyways, i think it's time for a new generation to take over the British Government, David Cameron.

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[Blind Sheppard]

This has nothing to do with Gordon Brown, it's been happening for ages. Don't care. If your dealing you deal with the consequences.

Making it legal would just encourage it among people who wouldn't bother with it previously.

You actually would like David Cameron in power? He's more clueless than Gordon.

[saikouslx]

Think about how much crime revolves around drugs. All i'm saying is it would be better that the government controls it rather than some dodgy guy. The purity would be much better. You can go buy weed of a dealer today, but you have no clue what it's been cut with. Yes i prefer David Cameron. Gordon seems to be completely lost, at least cameron has some direction. Cigarettes are legal, but loadsa people are against it and have never touched a fag. If it was sold in shops, no doubt it would have health warnings and all the other things that apply to tabacco. From an economic point of view, the government would be making money out of it, rather than spending money on trying to control it and failing. Cause lets face it weed is easy to get hold of.

[skaterat]

Here in California less than an ounce is a misdermeaner, basically like a parking ticket. Also here you can get a medical marijuana card and buy the really killer bud from a store. There's the age old argument regarding pot verses alcohol too. Alcohol related deaths are at an all time high, no comparison between the two in my opinion and alcohol is legal. I'm in no way condoning marijuana use but lets get real here.

[John_]

Here in California less than an ounce is a misdermeaner, basically like a parking ticket. Also here you can get a medical marijuana card and buy the really killer bud from a store. There's the age old argument regarding pot verses alcohol too. Alcohol related deaths are at an all time high, no comparison between the two in my opinion and alcohol is legal. I'm in no way condoning marijuana use but lets get real here.

i agree
but i also have to agree with blind..... to be honest, i don't do cannabis, or in that matter any other sort of drug, however from what some of my friends say.... if it were legal, i'd definatley try it. right now though.... im gunna think about it

[crazy_dave]

Bit lame like. Ahh well its not really gonna change much tho.

[sizlesteve]

Think about how much crime revolves around drugs. All i'm saying is it would be better that the government controls it rather than some dodgy guy. The purity would be much better. You can go buy weed of a dealer today, but you have no clue what it's been cut with. Yes i prefer David Cameron. Gordon seems to be completely lost, at least cameron has some direction. Cigarettes are legal, but loadsa people are against it and have never touched a fag. If it was sold in shops, no doubt it would have health warnings and all the other things that apply to tabacco. From an economic point of view, the government would be making money out of it, rather than spending money on trying to control it and failing. Cause lets face it weed is easy to get hold of.

Think about if cigs were illegal. Less people would be doing them cause they wouldnt want to go through the trouble of getting them or getting caught. Cigs dont impair your judgement like weed does. If weed was legal there would be a lot more things/accidents happening because people werent thinking right.

[juggle]

My friends smoke weed, I still think they are cool. I will never ever touch it, that I can promise you. No one gets banged up on weed really. If you are caught smoking it the cop will just stomp it out and proabbaly call your moms. If you are a dealer then yeah your gonna get in trouble. Keep it Illegal. If you dont think of how they DUI rates will increase, kids getting killed thats cool, as long as I dont get in trouble for smoking weed.

-thank you

[TrAnCe]

(top post) so why dont we abolish all laws altogether then. then there would be no crimes to stop ay. If we let drugs become legalised, you still wouldnt take em, right? so every time you walk into a restaurant, how you gonna know what they "really" put in the cookies?

besides, if you dont grow your own drugs, you wouldnt twice buy from some guy "who cut it up" with an AIDS infested knife. So he'd make sure his product was of the highest quality.

[RooR]

I agree with Skaterat.

And to the OP, marijuana would bring this nation a lot less revenue if it were legal, so it's in the government's best interest to keep it illegal.

The one problem I have with the issue is that the jail systems are overcrowded. Much of those people are weed dealers who have no violent tendencies. It would make much more sense to keep the jail space free for real offenders such as murderers, rapists, child molesters, etc.

My 2 cents. :-6:

Edit: And Sizlesteve, weed impairs judgement? Wtf? You ever see those weed commercials where some dudes whose judgement is apparently impaired by weed run over a little girl in the drive-thru? Or how bout the one where a little girl drowns in a pool cause the kid decided to smoke weed?? That stuff makes sense to you?

No buddy, that's called, you can't hang.

[Griptape Flip]

Here in California less than an ounce is a misdermeaner, basically like a parking ticket. Also here you can get a medical marijuana card and buy the really killer bud from a store. There's the age old argument regarding pot verses alcohol too. Alcohol related deaths are at an all time high, no comparison between the two in my opinion and alcohol is legal. I'm in no way condoning marijuana use but lets get real here.

Herb is a gift, JAH blessssss. Meditation & Love = Ganjaa

[sizlesteve]

I agree with Skaterat.

And to the OP, marijuana would bring this nation a lot less revenue if it were legal, so it's in the government's best interest to keep it illegal.

The one problem I have with the issue is that the jail systems are overcrowded. Much of those people are weed dealers who have no violent tendencies. It would make much more sense to keep the jail space free for real offenders such as murderers, rapists, child molesters, etc.

My 2 cents. :-6:

Edit: And Sizlesteve, weed impairs judgement? Wtf? You ever see those weed commercials where some dudes whose judgement is apparently impaired by weed run over a little girl in the drive-thru? Or how bout the one where a little girl drowns in a pool cause the kid decided to smoke weed?? That stuff makes sense to you?

No buddy, that's called, you can't hang.

If youve smoked weed, you know that you dont think the same way as being sober and dont make the same decisions. I thought mailboxes were walking down the street once......but then again that was a LOT of real good shit.

[TrAnCe]

I knew three brothers who did weed. one drowned himself, one jumped in front of a car, and the other ended up in hospital after jumping off a bridge. Dont say it doesnt impair judgement. they all said "just once" as well. To loose three sons in one night isnt good. when drugs are involved, its even worse

[saikouslx]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article3136517.ece

Making drugs legal wouldn't mean the apocalypse. And some foods contain alcohol in, so how do u find out whether or not it's got alcohol in? The ingredients. Also about those 3 brothers, they must have been tripping on some rotent shit. That's what im saying! If the government controlled it, rather than just say it's illegal, things would change. Think about how easy it is to get weed. It would be regulated. If alcohol was brought in today, it would be classed as a class A drug. It's only legal because of it's been around too long, people can't cope without it, e.g. prohibition. Many people have killed themselves whilst being drunk. If you drink it changes your perception as well. If someone doesn't want to do a substance they won't, if someone wants to they will. Thats the thing about drugs governments can't get rid of them. So controlling it would be the next best thing.

[R-dude]

I live in holland...relatively legal here (there are rules but the government's pretty damn tolerant about the stuff). We get on fine as a country...there's just a whole different attitude towards the stuff here and I've never seen anything about a cannabis related death in the news...so...I mean, because the stuff's been "legal" (actually selling weed is illegal but not punishable here...so you're not allowed but the authorities can't do anything about it) here for such a long time it's no big deal. So I'm guessing that it would work pretty much the same in any other country...once it's been legal for a while people will just learn to deal with it.
You would need a certain amount of rules though. Here you can only legally buy the stuff in a coffeeshop, you're only allowed to have 30 grams on you, you're only allowed to grow 4 plants per person, you're only allowed to purchase it in coffeeshops when you're 18 or older etc. That and coffeeshops aren't allowed to sell alcohol and crap that might make a nice high go nasty. I mean I daresay that coffeeshops are quite a good idea, at least you're certain that the stuff is "safe". Coffeeshops need to get licences and everything and they have to have certain quality. That's a nicer idea then buying it off some shady dude who got it from god knows where.

I'm not saying I'm pro-cannabis or anti-cannabis, I just think that if the government would play it smart they could easily handle a drug like cannabis, up untill now it's worked fine over here...no need to get all dramatic about it like the uk gouverment is....haven't they got bigger problems?

[McJesus]

I smoke weed. These things are always going to be going on. You can't stop it so just smoke while your alive and call it good.

[R.W.T.F]

Haha, right on McJ.

[Blind Sheppard]

Think about how much crime revolves around drugs. All i'm saying is it would be better that the government controls it rather than some dodgy guy. The purity would be much better. You can go buy weed of a dealer today, but you have no clue what it's been cut with. Yes i prefer David Cameron. Gordon seems to be completely lost, at least cameron has some direction. Cigarettes are legal, but loadsa people are against it and have never touched a fag. If it was sold in shops, no doubt it would have health warnings and all the other things that apply to tabacco. From an economic point of view, the government would be making money out of it, rather than spending money on trying to control it and failing. Cause lets face it weed is easy to get hold of.
First off you don't cut weed with things, so no worries there. You can lace it but even if you were to lace it who would sell it for a tenner if it's been laced it's just bad buisness. When it comes to substances like coke and that you can cut it very easily with other things and that is a huge problem.

[Grinding God]

Meh no difference to me. It was a class B drug until a few years ago anyway.

[AlmostJeff]

As long as you smoke in moderation, and in a safe environment all is good. When I smoked I never considered killing myself or any shit like that, minus the time I didn't know that there was valuum in the pot...which reminds me learn from my mistakes, always do somewhat of a background check on your soon-to-be herb, or toke with a reliable person. That's all I've got to say.

[China Skate]

Just keep yourself in check with reality from time to time if you're doing drugs and shit; all I gotta say

[JoeyKovacs]

All i got to say is DAMN china your display picture is ****ing great.

[PopwarPunk]

Uhh

I'm gonna start growing tobacco in the spring...

But that is irrelevant haha

[R-dude]

ooh, yeah i'd like to try growing tobacco some time too. Just cause I never grow anything....i'd like to grow something.

[saikouslx]

First off you don't cut weed with things, so no worries there. You can lace it but even if you were to lace it who would sell it for a tenner if it's been laced it's just bad buisness. When it comes to substances like coke and that you can cut it very easily with other things and that is a huge problem.
there was some weed going around this area recently which had been mixed with glass powder. It's getting dry so dealers will try sell anything.

I'm in check with reality, I just thought it was something that made sense. Some drugs talk guy sed it to us time ago and it made sense to me.

[Blind Sheppard]

there was some weed going around this area recently which had been mixed with glass powder. It's getting dry so dealers will try sell anything.

I'm in check with reality, I just thought it was something that made sense. Some drugs talk guy sed it to us time ago and it made sense to me.
Ok do you understand what weed is, it's the herb taken straight off the plant. If you can't tell that it has glass powder in it you probably shouldn't smoke it anyway. What i think your referring to is tac which is usually mixed with more chemicals than you can imagine and is smoked by the poorest of the poor, aka tramps who would rather stink to high heaven of it than pay the same for a better bag of green.

[saikouslx]

yes i know what green is. , they spray the powder over it when it's budding, it adds weight to the bud. I noe for a fact this stuff went through, i got some myself. It was shit, all im saying is that they sprinkle stuff over to make it more potent or to make it weigh more, it's not always on the surface of it. anyways this is a bit off topic now...

[psycoskater]

My generation won't see a stop to this, that has been proven by the shit governments.

There are two things that can be done. Either you smoke it or you don't. It is that simple if you choose to smoke good for you. If you don't smoke then good for you too.

We all have our opinions and the people above us say its "what the majority" wants when its not true. If you want safe bud grow it yourself. The war on drugs is simply a waste of tax money. Gives it a "safe" feeling to know we are busting users instead of the distributors.

Oh man I can't wait to grow for myself and no one else, I'll make BOMB weed :-d.

[Ramp]