marijuana laws

[BoArDeR420]

does anybody know the current marijuana laws for ohio? please give me a site. if not tell me what ur states pot laws are and why marijuana should be legalized

[blind]

Possession of less than 100 grams of marijuana is a citable offense only, with a fine of $100. No criminal record is created by such citation. Possession of 100 grams or more is punishable by a fine of up to $250. For possession of 200 grams or more, the penalty increases to a possible sentence of 6 months - one year in jail. Possession of 1,000 grams or more is punishable by 1 - 5 years in prison. Any possession of less than 5,000 grams does not carry the presumption of prison, which leaves available the possibility of probation. Possession of 5,000 grams of marijuana or more is punishable by 1 - 5 years in prison. For any amount or 20,000 grams or more the penalty increases to a mandatory minimum sentence of eight years in prison.

Sale or delivery of 20 grams or less, for no remuneration, is considered possession and is punished with a fine of $100. Sale or distribution of less than 200 grams carries a penalty of 6 - 18 months in jail. Sale or distribution of 200 grams or more is punishable by 1 - 5 years in prison. Sale or distribution of 600 grams or greater carries a mandatory minimum sentence of six months and a possible 2 - 8 year sentence.

Sale to minors, sale within 1,000 feet of a school, sale within 100 feet of a juvenile, and previous felony drug convictions all increase the penalty for the sale or distribution of marijuana.

Possession of paraphernalia is punishable by up to 30 days in jail and sale of paraphernalia is punishable by up to 90 days in jail.

For all drug convictions, the offender's driver's license is also suspended for a period of 6 months - 5 years. This does not apply to minor misdemeanor violations for marijuana possess. Professional licenses are also suspended.

For the full list and penalties and charges, go to http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?wtm_view=&Group_ID=4557


I think it should be legalized because it brings more harm being illegal than legal. Also, they make it out to be such a bad thing, and it really isn't. Alcohal is worse, along with cocaine and heroin, things like that. Finally, because the government lies on those TV commercials and , and they've admited to it. That's for me :)

[-_-moshpunk-_-]

sweet now how bout laws for canada

[TwiztidSkater15]

i think marijuana laws are stupid. we shouldnt even have the damn laws.

[DarkHawk2-2]

wow... 100 grams sounds like a lot... the marijuana laws arent that strict actually, my parents will pay the fines for me. Im serious. they dont care bout marijuana, they only care about me doing crack or heroine which i dont do. They think marijuana is a good recreational drug...

[TwiztidSkater15]

lol why cant i have parents lyke yours?

[DarkHawk2-2]

becuz ure not me... :D lol

[TwiztidSkater15]

damn that lol

[robiskewl]

mas'sachusetts, the laws are intense, which is crap cause lotsa people smoke. you get locked up for possession. and you dont need thatmuch at all. i'm not sure aboot paraphonelia though.

[Flip Boy]

I just don't want to do it Period so i don't care.

[mikejl29]

Under 20 grams in Ontario has now been legalized I believe.

[blind]

Damn you Canadians :cool:

[mr_demon]

in russia, u just give 20 dollars to the policeman who catches u and u will usually get away with it, provided there isn't a lot of it

[Craig Himself]

Originally posted by Flip Boy
I just don't want to do it Period so i don't care.

Dont start fights by making this peaceful thread negative, cos a mod do0in that is wrong...

[TwiztidSkater15]

how would that start a fight?

[bananasoup]

"Under 20 grams in Ontario has now been legalized I believe."

not legalized, decriminalized. big difference. its pretty much the same in all of canada now, but not "officially"

[robiskewl]

craig how was ben trying to start a fight? and i dont have any intend of smoking it either. i was just stating a fact.

[DarkHawk2-2]

i dont smoke anymore.

[TwiztidSkater15]

i started smoking a few months ago. but i dont smoke all that often only when im uder stress or sumthing lyke that.

[Flip Boy]

I used to smoke. I don't anymore.. Waste of money and time.

[TwiztidSkater15]

yeah but i havent really realized that yet. lol

[Flip Boy]

I suppose it is ok if you do it when your chillin. But not when you could be skatin no what i mean?

[TwiztidSkater15]

yeah

[Craig Himself]

Daaaaaaaaaaayyym Ben you're soundin lyke Mat now (all 3 of them!) cos all u wanna do is skate lyke thats it

[blind]

Originally posted by bananasoup
"Under 20 grams in Ontario has now been legalized I believe."

not legalized, decriminalized. big difference. its pretty much the same in all of canada now, but not "officially"

That's true. But at one time, about 2-3 weeks ago, there was no law. They got rid of the old one, so for the time being, it was completely legal. They now have a new law up, but it's less severe as the old one.

More complete story: http://www.cbc.ca/storyview/MSN/2003/05/27/marijuana_law030527

[bananasoup]

"i started smoking a few months ago. but i dont smoke all that often only when im uder stress or sumthing lyke that."

ah ha ha. youll be a cronic soon enough then. :p

[blind]

Yup. It takes over you, don't try and fight it. :)

[Flip Boy]

Originally posted by Craig Himself
Daaaaaaaaaaayyym Ben you're soundin lyke Mat now (all 3 of them!) cos all u wanna do is skate lyke thats it

I got better things to do than smoke.

[oldscoolelement]

in the 60's, LSD was legal in the US. dude, some kid in AL or something got 27 yrs for selling a 20 bag ot a narc. jesus, theyr e letting murders and rapists out of prison to make room for pot heads. thats a good idea. plus, if uve ever been convicted of ANY drug charge, your not eligible for student aid. but if ur a convicted murderer who wants to go back to school, you can. good idea, give the MURDERER an college education

[oldscoolelement]

and thats bull ****in shit, it dusnt "take you over" its a PLANT!!!! an HERB! it dusnt kill brain cells, dusnt make you stupid, dusnt do any of that crap the DARE officer told you. theres no tar or nicotine in weed, so u wont get cancer. and anyone who tries to make up a story likje "my uncle smoked pot, and now he lives in a dumpster: is a retard. my dad has been smokin weed for 40 years+, and hes now retired, and he's 54. willie nelson is 70, and he's a huge stoner, not only is he rich, he's pretty healthy. believe me, aspirin is more harmful then pot. i swear./ go to erowid.com if u dont belive me/. or try http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/ thats a more recent one. heres a myth/fact--

MYTH:
MARIJUANA IS HIGHLY ADDICTIVE. Long term marijuana users experience physical dependence and withdrawal, and often need professional drug treatment to break their marijuana habits.

FACT:
Most people who smoke marijuana smoke it only occasionally. A small minority of Americans - less than 1 percent - smoke marijuana on a daily basis. An even smaller minority develop a dependence on marijuana. Some people who smoke marijuana heavily and frequently stop without difficulty. Others seek help from drug treatment professionals. Marijuana does not cause physical dependence. If people experience withdrawal symptoms at all, they are remarkably mild.

MYTH:
MARIJUANA IS A GATEWAY DRUG. Even if marijuana itself causes minimal harm, it is a dangerous substance because it leads to the use of "harder drugs" like heroin, LSD, and cocaine.

FACT:
Marijuana does not cause people to use hard drugs. What the gateway theory presents as a causal explanation is a statistic ***ociation between common an uncommon drugs, an ***ociation that changes over time as different drugs increase and decrease in prevalence. Marijuana is the most popular illegal drug in the United States today. Therefore, people who have used less popular drugs such as heroin, cocaine, and LSD, are likely to have also used marijuana. Most marijuana users never use any other illegal drug. Indeed, for the large majority of people, marijuana is a terminus rather than a gateway drug.

MYTH:
MARIJUANA OFFENSES ARE NOT SEVERELY PUNISHED. Few marijuana law violators are arrested and hardly anyone goes to prison. This lenient treatment is responsible for marijuana continued availability and use.

FACT:
Marijuana arrests in the United States doubled between 1991 and 1995. In 1995, more than one-half-million people were arrested for marijuana offenses. Eighty-six percent of them were arrested for marijuana possession. Tens of thousands of people are now in prison or marijuana offenses. An even greater number are punished with probation, fines, and civil sanctions, including having their property seized, their driver's license revoked, and their employment terminated. Despite these civil and criminal sanctions, marijuana continues to be readily available and widely used.


it costs something like 22,000$ to keep someone in jail for one year. multiply that by the 750,000 pot related arrests in 2002 and you get 16500000000$ WASTED. that money could go towards keeping real criminals like rapists and coke dealers in jail, and get rehab for crack, coke, heroin etc users. locking people up makes themn madder and makes them want to do drugs more to escape from problems. rehab helps. and pot isnt a drug. according to the us guidelines for what drusg are, pot cl***ifies as an herb, not a controlled substance. when they sey "dont do drugs" theyre right. but pot, shrooms, kava, those arent drugs. kava is the root of some plant, pot is a plant, and shrooms are fungi. so lets end this prohibition bullshit (remeber what prohibition did in the 20's? got people killed and more people were drinking then ever b4) free the weed!

[Craig Himself]

I lyke those facts :-D

[the fun skater]

marijuanas bad...........NOT!!
that stuffs awsome i havent done it in a while thoug
its good stuff and when you try and skate with it it makes skating weird and spinny but if you try like a 280 or 360 you get dizzy and fall on your face

well i do at least

the skater

[Craig Himself]

Yuh thats great hahaha

[robiskewl]

wight...you got some facts there buddy

[bananasoup]

"Most people who smoke marijuana smoke it only occasionally. A small minority of Americans - less than 1 percent - smoke marijuana on a daily basis."

ah ha ha. come up to canada bro. the percent that smoke it everyday is much, higher than 1% (im willing to bet. dont know the exact statistics, but i could find out).

god bless canadabis. i love my country. :D

[oldscoolelement]

Originally posted by robiskewl
wight...you got some facts there buddy

iunno if ure being sarcastic or not, but those are FACTS. who are u gonna believe, the govt? the same people that told you iraq has weapons ofm*** destruction, that told you area 51 doesnt exist, that "forgot" to tell you we spent twice as much money trying to lock up drug users then we did trying to fight terrorism? hehe, yea, i thunked so

[blind]

Oldschoolelement, I know it doesn't "take over you", let alone be adictive. I know those facts and myths also, I was just making a little off-hand remark.

[oldscoolelement]

i nkow, but someone on this board thinks it dus, iunno hwo, and im sickof hearing that negative b/s. if someone dusnt wanna do it, thats cool, i dont care. but its when they sey "i wont ever do pot cuz its bad for you" that pisses me off. at least try it once to see what your hating.

[blind]

Yup, if people actually researched it and found out the REAl facts, and not the BS that the government produces and puts in the media, they'd realize that it's not actually bad.

[robiskewl]

i'm not being sarcastic. one cant be sarcastic when typing. i was applauding the fact of your facts and your research.

[chickaboarder13]

it messes up your DNA, you can tell your kid with two heads and 11 fingers why they are so messed up when your grown then.

[bananasoup]

ahaha, i cant believe you actually think that chica.

thats seriously one of the dumbest things ive ever heard. :rolleyes:

[chickaboarder13]

dumb but true. do whatever. be you.

[DarkHawk2-2]

only bad thing bout pot is that it actually can cause accidents... buts that only if ure completely stoned. Another negative is your teeth gets yellow. But thats only if u do it all the time. My conclusion is that weed can be dangerous if you cant control yourself. I do it every other week. Or even for a longer extended time between smokings.

Sean won't believe that... lol... I'm kinda high right now so don't worry about it.

[shamoncowboy]

dude when your on pot your only oing like 10 miles an hour, and another thing, when a big fight occurs at a ball game, is everyone on pot, or are they drunk, theyre drunk, thats for sure

[oldscoolelement]

Originally posted by chickaboarder13
it messes up your DNA, you can tell your kid with two heads and 11 fingers why they are so messed up when your grown then.

my god, i know what it is. your retarded. and all this time ove been making fun of you, im sorry ashley. your special! it does NOTHING to your DNA, you must be so dumb to say that. hmm, has anyone ever heard or seen any PROOF that that has happened? i know like, 50 different kids whose parents are p[ot heads porwere stoners, and theyrefine. jeez, if u really belive that, youve been brainwashed./ i bet uve never even smoked pot before, and your laying down judgement. your a typical ignorant fool.learn to opne your eyes, dont belive what the dare officer told you, thats bullsheit. learn to think for your self, try weed before you bash it and make up lies about it. my father has been smoking pot for over forty years, and smoked pot when he had me. my mom smoked when she was pregnant with me and my sister, to ease morning sickness and nasuea. my sister gradutated from fordham U, and has no birth defects. neither do i. so shutupand get some facts/

shaman, you listen to bill hicks too?

[chickaboarder13]

we didN'T (sorry about that typo) have dare officers. and i'm not gonna argue this with you- it'd be 1 pointless and 2 taking up space on RR.

As far as i'm concerd it messes up ur DNA. and if you don't want to think that it's find by me, but don't expect me to belive what you beilve and do what you do.

I'd also like to note that i admire you standing your ground, just let others do the same. if you smoke pot (which obviously counting the threads you've made about it or spoken about it in) then GREAT! but keep it more to urself man, there's lil kids here.. don't start them on somethings they can't finish.

[oldscoolelement]

but dont spread lies, pot CANT mutate DNA. delta-9-tetrahydrocannibinol (thats what gets you high) doesnt effect DNA. if it werent a FACT, you could have an opinion. thats l;ike saying, "in my opinion, america lost world war II. its been proven that we won, just like how pot dusnt effect DNA, or brain cells, or anything.

[chickaboarder13]

dude. not all pot is the same. how do we konw that YOUR not the one saying america lost WW2. There is no point in saying i'm wrong. I'm not saying your are cause you obviously rn't going to listen. As far as i'm concerned it does, it ****s around with your DNA. If you don't beilve me go to the doc and get tested to see if your DNA is damaged or anything like that. then you can say i'm wrong. but until then i stand my ground.

[Impossible]

i dont smoke so i dont have to worry about all this

[Flip Boy]

America Didn't win WW2 BTW.. it was an overall victory by a route of powers many stemming from around the globe.. Trust me WW2 is not over.. there are still fascist and neo- Nazi's left

[bananasoup]

"we did have dare officers"

you actually believe those dare officers? my god.
for your sake, i hope you someday break out of the sheltered life you live and start questioning the things youre told.
believing what a DARE officer has to say is like me believing that everything i see on TV is 100% and completly true (which i HOPE that ALL us here know, isnt true.)
but hey, if you like being lied to, thats your choice...

like oldschoolelement said, can we spell B-R-A-I-N-W-A-S-H-E-D?

:-12:

[Impossible]

i choose not to smoke because of my opinion on it not because of the things parents and cops tell us! break out if you want to smoke go for it if you dont make the desicion on your own

[DarkHawk2-2]

this lil argument isnt going anywhere in the direction of marijuana laws.

[Impossible]

i agree just 2 different opinions clashing together

[oldscoolelement]

but impossible, you probbly are sensible enough to know that pot dusnt mutate DNA. Ashley, cite ONE incident where a child of a toker has come out mutated. bet you cant, cuz its IMPOSSILBE. its not a matter of opinion, its just a fact that pot dusnt mutate DNA, same as smoking cigarettes causes some forms of cancer, thats a FACT, its been proven, just like how pot DOES NOT MUTATE DNA. and shit, pot is all the same. there are diff. strains, but theyre all either cannabis sative or cannabis indica. niether mutates dna, or causes brain damage, or kills you, or causes cancer. whatever officer steve told you is wronmg.

[Impossible]

i guess

[chickaboarder13]

sorrys about that man i meant to say DIDN"T have dare officers. Cause the program didn't have enough $ where i live to keep going.

and i'll be sure to look one up and find an incident where a child was mutated by it for you. lemme check and i'll get back to you.

[chickaboarder13]

Originally posted by bananasoup
"we did have dare officers"

you actually believe those dare officers? my god.
for your sake, i hope you someday break out of the sheltered life you live and start questioning the things youre told.
believing what a DARE officer has to say is like me believing that everything i see on TV is 100% and completly true (which i HOPE that ALL us here know, isnt true.)
but hey, if you like being lied to, thats your choice...

like oldschoolelement said, can we spell B-R-A-I-N-W-A-S-H-E-D?

:-12:

and element gets most his sorces from the internet from poeple who 'say' they are doctors. just cause someone says's they a certified phd doesn't mean they are. The internet is full of loop wholes. caues i mean... i could really be a man saying i'm a girl and u've beleived it the whole time.



but i'm not. duh. i'm sick of this crap. why do u have to go on and on? don't you see you are not going to change my opinion? it's like going into a church full of people when your like a muslum or something and trying to get them all to convert. chances are very silm. maybe you'll have 1 or 2 people who realy don't have a strong root in their faith that follow you. but just about 99% of the world's population stands by what they say. Sorry i'm not easy to sway into your world of pot and marj. but that's just how i am. If you smoke it well then gee great. just don't bug me with it all the time.

[Craig Himself]

hey guys lay off her ok? She shared her opinion just lyke everyone else did

[bananasoup]

i dont get my info from the internet chica, because my mom is a nurse. she has been for the past 25 years. thats where i get my info on marijuana, that and from family doctors. not only marijuana but other drugs as well. and yes, i have actually asked doctors what they think of pot. i like to pride myself on being very knowledge (and safe) when it comes to drugs, wether they be illegal or legal OTC drugs, so i can help people out if they decide to have a taste.

either way though, im not trying to change your opinion. i never was, so dont a.ssume things.

[oldscoolelement]

thank you. and ashley, its not a matter of opnion, its scientific facts. ok, i get SOME of my info from the net,some from my aunt whos a nurse, some frommy dad (whos been toking foir 40 years) and some from people i nkow. where do you get your info from? i wanna know who thinks pot mutates DNA. cuz theyre retarded

[BoArDeR420]

Originally posted by chickaboarder13
and element gets most his sorces from the internet from poeple who 'say' they are doctors. just cause someone says's they a certified phd doesn't mean they are. The internet is full of loop wholes. caues i mean... i could really be a man saying i'm a girl and u've beleived it the whole time.



but i'm not. duh. i'm sick of this crap. why do u have to go on and on? don't you see you are not going to change my opinion? it's like going into a church full of people when your like a muslum or something and trying to get them all to convert. chances are very silm. maybe you'll have 1 or 2 people who realy don't have a strong root in their faith that follow you. but just about 99% of the world's population stands by what they say. Sorry i'm not easy to sway into your world of pot and marj. but that's just how i am. If you smoke it well then gee great. just don't bug me with it all the time.



its not OPINION its ****ing FACT. marijuana NEVER has and NEVER will mutlate dna. its IMPOSSIBLE!. u are probably THE MOST brainwashed person ive ever heard.

[chickaboarder13]

you don't have to kill me cause i say something. That's what i've been told by lots of people. No i havn't done pot, never will, so i'll never find out 1st hand. go away! argh! ::pushes the snapping alligators back into the water::

[oldscoolelement]

maybe you should try it to see what your bashing. plus, itllmake you less giddy. i can tellk you prob have ADHD

[blind]

The only way to really mutate DNA is by certian chemicals. None of which are exsistant in marijuana. And Ashley, about us "swaying you into our world", we're not, we're just getting facts and lies sorted out. I get my sources from Government research sites, some pot sites that have done research, places like that. Scientific documents, not some dickheaded idiot sitting in his house claiming to be a doctor. Also, Erowid is a very good place of info for many drugs. Read up on things, because a lot fo mainstream media has been faked and people have admited to it. There's a lot to say here, but most of it can be done with research, so do it.

[chickaboarder13]

okidokie.. thanks sean.. now if they had said it like that, i would have understood. but then again they r just stupid 13 year olds :-P haha

[oldscoolelement]

I SED EROWID.COM! jesus. thats whre i get most of my knowledge, but i never trust govt. owned sites. they say that 1/3 of drivers involved in accidents test + for marijauan. ok, but what they fail to tell you is that pot can stay in yuor system for 4 weeks. also, the pregnancy commericals pisses me off. if ur too stupid to not use a rubber, then u deserve what u get. im had sex plenty o times hwiule high, and i always use rubbers. ive never been so stoned that i dont know what im doing.

[bananasoup]

dont even TRY to play me off as a dumb 13 year old chica. :rolleyes:

im neither dumb, nor 13.

[blind]

She was refering to me my good man. By the way Ash, I'm 14 now. Oldschoolelement, I didn't read everything back in the topic and wasn't aware that you mentioned Erowid. And I agree with you about those commercials, you can never be too stoned not to remember to wear a rubber, and as you said if your too stupid to remember, then you get what you deserve. By the way, do either of you have AIM or MSN? I'd like to chat with both of you.

AIM: SectSkater03
MSN: OsirisSkater0991@hotmail.com

*EDIT* Ashley, here's the link to cannabis health problems. http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_health.shtml

[oldscoolelement]

s92986 AIM

[robiskewl]

Originally posted by chickaboarder13
dude. not all pot is the same....As far as i'm concerned it does, it ****s around with your DNA. If you don't beilve me go to the doc and get tested to see if your DNA is damaged or anything like that. then you can say i'm wrong. but until then i stand my ground.
not all marijauna is the same. there are many strands of it. but the only kind of pot that will mess with your DNA is if its LACED with something like crack or lsd. which is just stupid to being cause there is no point in lacing marijuana.

and marijauna does NOT mess with one's DNA. you might think this because it stays in the bloodstream for thirty days and in a persons body for sixty, but it does not affect one's DNA. it affects the brain, just like all other drugs, such as asprin, novacaine, cocaine, advil and tylenol. they all get into the bloodstream and then the blood gos into the brain causing an adverse affect on the brain. NOT DNA. get your facts right.


and if people are telling you marijauan mutates DNA it's because they are afraid of it and too much of a dipshit to actually learn something that the governments laws dont outright state.

[robbie666]

oldscoolelement ... you seem to know TONS about pot use... ANY adverse side effects?

[blind]

Nope, unless you wake up high. The only bad thing about smoking is that it may give you dry mouth, but no bad side affects, aside for some lung cancers, but that's only if you smoke daily for a very long time.

[Flip Boy]

And it messes up the hair in your throat that usually sweeps away muccus. They become stagnent and cease to work properly which gives you smokers cough. Not what you want.

[oldscoolelement]

i dont cough, unles i take a huge hit. there are very few adverse side effects, like short term memory loss (only when your actually high, tho) and a slight decrease in sperm count (again, only when ur high). pot is actually safer than aspirin.

[robbie666]

well, and i am sure you will disagree... i studied pot, along with other drugs at university. with extended use, it does decrease short-term memory, NOT only when you are high, and it does not come back for years after you slow/stop use.... reduced sperm count, again not only when you are high, but will come back in a shorter period of time after stopping use (usually less than 1 year).

pot is not bad for you, compared to most other things... but people shouldnt think its harmless.

everything in moderation (including moderation!)

[oldscoolelement]

well, compared to aspirin even, its safer. besides, i dont plan oon knocking anyone up as of now anyway. plus, i havent noticed much memory loss, and ive been smoking for a year,sometimesonce a day ro more.in the summer, forget about it. i smoke sso much, but its all good, as long as i grad. HS.

[Ramp]