Rap without inspiration?

[snowboarder]

I noticed sometimes ago that almost all the rap songs I know have a '70s' song beat......it's just like rappers arent even good enough to come out with a melody they invented themselves, they had to steal it. Here's a small list I can give you, but there are way more.

Puff Daddy [come with me] ----> Led Zeppelin [Kashmir]
Puff Daddy [missing you] ----> Sting [Watching You]
NAS [the message] -----> Sting [Shape of my heart]
VAI [street life] -----> Eurythmics [Sweet Dreams]
Eminem [sing for the moment] --> Aerosmith [Dream On]
A LOT of other NAS songs and a lot of 2pac songs too.

[mr_demon]

they r in for the money, y pay a musician to make a new song, just copy an old one, and what sucks is that it actually works

[Craig Himself]

Yuh i defo. agree

[bananasoup]

true, puff daddy has no talent, but its just sampling man. its been going on long before this gen of MCs.

they hear a sample they like, and think they can add dope lyrics to it. more of a remix then anything..

[dmac4130]

but remixes suck. linkin park proved that with reanimation. originality is the life-force of music. sampling is stupid unless you're writing a tribute song or something.

[oldscoolelement]

tru. i knew about kasmir-comewith me thing for a while. zeppelin rocks tho. not just stairway either, tangerine, dyer maker, they have a load of good songs

[robiskewl]

oh and we cant forget Vanilla Ice- ice ice baby-------->some queen song about subways

will smith samples basically all of his beats. i dont understand the idea of sampling. but when you hear a good beat, you repeat it and borrow it.

[TwiztidSkater15]

its not Puff Daddy, its P. Diddy. lol i just had to clear that up.

[snowboarder]

when those songs came out it was puff daddy ;)

[TwiztidSkater15]

yes but now it is P. Diddy! P to the D to the I to the D to the D to the Y! is that ghetto enough??? lol im really hyper and stupid tonite.

[Mrock]

I'm into pop-punk a lot...and even though it's not rap...like 80% of the guitar riffs are the exact same thing in songs....except with different rhythms, are played a different amount of times, or have a different tempo...or have effects thrown on. I'm not dissing pop-punk though, I love it...

BTW: I actually like the beat to "Kashmir" by Led Zepplin..kicks ***..

The rap artist is to lazy to make their own melody, so steal one? I disagree on that one. Personally, as a musician, I wouldn't copy someone elses melody ever...but if I did, it'd be something I really liked...so it should be flattering, if anything. In 20 years, a lot of the music today will seem identical, musically. There's only so many guitar riffs you can write (this is meant in the pop-punk sense)..

[snowboarder]

Originally posted by Mrock
There's only so many guitar riffs you can write (this is meant in the pop-punk sense)..

Yeah but you may agree with me if I say that pop-punk is written by "not-so-good" musicians...same 2-3 powerchords during all the song, no solos, no drum beat change, the basist has 4-5 notes to play....compare that to older songs by...Led Zeppelin, Iron Maiden, Metallica, clapton, etc.....and you can see that pop-punk is quite low in the "talent" ladder. I'm not dissing pop-punk (well yes I am, but not right now at this exact moment), and I don't say pop-punk "artists" don't have talent, but they're more entertainers than musicians to me.

[tryhard_skater]

Originally posted by TwiztidSkater15
yes but now it is P. Diddy! P to the D to the I to the D to the D to the Y! is that ghetto enough??? lol im really hyper and stupid tonite.

yeh its p.diddy but that song goes "D to the I to the D to the D to the Y to the D to the I to the D it's diddy, hold up, its diddy, wats my name?"
for "diddy did"

[Ramp]