tips to ollie a heavier setup

[shaolin_sword36]

i have an 8.5 inch x 32" old school deck with indies and 60mm wheels, it is a pretty heavy setup, my friends who have been skating for about a year can ollie and kick flip and 50-50 it fine but i'm still havin trouble ollying if my foot is too far back. i can olly it if my front foot is touching the grip tape but if its in the middle, the board goes too far ahead.

any help?

[robiskewl]

oldschoolelement i leave this thread for you....and person who started this thread, may i suggest PM'ing him if he doesnt respond?

[oldscoolelement]

i dont understanmd in full, are u saying u have a cutout in the middle of the board where there is no grip, so u have to hjave your foot further back? which foot are you having the prob with thats too far back?

rob, hehe, thanks for the props on the oldschool info.

[iamflameboy]

i thnk she's saying that she carnt ollie it because its too heavy (hense the thread title)....with ollies on oldschool boards i find that you gotta slam down on the tail pretty hard because you've got the bigger wheels and the lot wider deck to get off the ground so just slam it down hard.....but you've also gotta remember that old-school decks arnt ment for new-school tricks

[shaolin_sword36]

nah

my freidns can do new school tricks on my board

im trying to say...i can olly with my front foot near the bolts but if i put my foot near the middle, the board doesnt stay under me.

[robiskewl]

well...i got something that'll fix this problem......do bonelesses!

[iamflameboy]

Originally posted by shaolin_sword36
my freidns can do new school tricks on my board

i never said you carnt do them on old-school boards....they arnt designed for kickflips because of their size and weight, they are designed for bert slides, spacewalks and ditch/bank tricks

[oldscoolelement]

i see what yur saying. if u can ollie with your front foot further up, then do it that way, if thats what feels comfortable to you.

[shaolin_sword36]

the problem is for maximum height and ollying curbs and decks and such i will require a foot position further back. just wondering any ways I can keep the deck underneath me while the foot is in the middle.

[shaolin_sword36]

ps. other than bobs trick tips....any other good compilation of old school trick instruction? also looking for tips on reverts.

[oldscoolelement]

not necesarily, look at pros, they ollie with their front foot bewteen the middle and the front boltsd. if ur looking for max height, get a new scool board, u wont be able to do iut with yours. i do oldschool tricks, but i ride an elemnt.

as fo old school tricks, try bonelessing first, thats the olkdschool equivilent of the ollie. to do it, grab the board indy, with your back hand between your toes. if ur regualr, its the right hand. then, step off with your front foot, and while keeping ur backfoot on the baord, lift up and jump off, and land.

try variations, like bonelss handspins, its bascially a boneless, and then a kickflip with your grabbing hand, hence the name. also, boness 360 flips are cool. reverts, well, all that is is a kick turn after you land something. its not rerally a trick, just a little something to do. try powersldies and byrtlemans. byrtlemans can be done a number of ways. the original way is you ride, usually up a bank or something, and put your left hand down, if ur regualr, and get low, like a layback, but slide your boRd out kinda, and then bring it back, stand up and ride away clean/

[T O O L]

Get a new dam board if you wanna try new school shit. Otherwise forget it.

[shaolin_sword36]

thanks for the info old school element

yeah i've got bert slides down alright but i dont really get reverts. i saw animal chin and tony and lance n shit just rip it doing reverts left and right going really really fast....is there a tip other than just kinda pivoting? foot placement and such? weight transfer? i'm afraid i'l only go 90 degrees and eat shit

any other old school tricks i can do on ramps and stuff? i've watched alot of rodney mullen stuff and i'm learning primo to casper and back. then i wanna learn the stuff where he ollies and sticks his left foot to the right and vice versa. then he pulls the board up to his chest and kicks both feet. is there a board pop going on or is he just lifting? can it be done over a spine for example?

thx

[oldscoolelement]

what mullen does, thats beyond oldschool, its in its own category:free style. besides inventing the flat land ollie (yeah, alan "ollie" gelfand invented it on vert, but that totally diff. than the flatground ollie, thats what you do now. an ollie on vert is basically letting your front wheels bonk the coping in such a way that it lifts you skyward). i cant dpo a lot of freestyl,e i can do a few primo moves while standing still, and i can no handed pogo live 6 times, thatsa about it. oh, and this trick i invented, where you kinda revert on the tail, like ok, your riding, and your grab the board like a boneless, but u dont boneless, yoy grab and scrape the tail into a 180, then you pivot aropund on the tail, and ride away./ i know i didnt invent it, but i like it. so that counts as inventing it, right? hehe. as for old school tricks, i would suggest getting high and just inventing shit. i got stoned and invented like 3 tricks. one is a boneless kickflip handspin (BS k/f hs) but you grab the board as it complets the flip and then jump on, instead of letting it flip and jumpinbg on w/o grabbing it to stop it. thje second one is the same thing, cept you do a half-k/f, then grab it, and you can do a number of things here, like a 180, or a 180flip, just think of diff. things. the third is a step off shuvit, but while the board shove its tcolcwise, i trun 180 in the opposite direction, kinda like a bigspin. ive only landed thios like 5 times, its really hard, cuz u land fakie, and if ur not perfectly balanced, you get stuck up like a valley girl or the board shoots out like a drive by in South Central. m,ost of these tricks wer invented by people who were high, like tony alva, stacy peralta (speaking of, did anypone see his little speach in thje 1984 vid. "let it bleed"? what an ***hole, i lost all repsect for himn, he bascvially sez "we teach people how to skate, and we teach thewm where to skate, theres certain places like skateparks where they should skate, like ifeveryone went out anmd cooked in the street,m people would get hit by cars, and cooking would be banned". ****in douchebag). what mullen does, i think what ur saying anyway, is like an ollie north, cept his foot goes to the side instead of straight out. the other one, with the hchest, i dunno wtf that is. if hes doing it on vert, basically, its liek the vert ollie i mentoined. i think. ive never seen him do those tricks, so i cant be sure.,

here some links to alternative styles of skating

(it aint spamming unles you be profiting somehow)

http://perso.wanadoo.es/longboard/
http://venicebeach.com/thepit/oldschool.shtml
http://www.cerealkiller.de/index.php?site=old *edit(* theyre def. of acid drop isnt correct, an acid drop is when u ride right off on seomthing, like a ledge.
but still, this is an awesome site.
http://www.kiantal.fsnet.co.uk/stare/staredots.html
http://www.5050skateboarding.com/v3/fools/scene.shtml -this site has AMAZING info bout the 5 boros, if u dont know what that is, then it doesnt really matter if you cjeck out this site
http://bigbrothermagazine.com/martyheddings.html


there you go, have fun, and keep oldschooling, there arent enough of us, bring it back!!

note, i nkow my spelling i exceptiaonally bad, i cut my finger bad, and am wearing a big bandage, cayuusing REALLY bad spelling , as if it werent bad enuff already

[iamflameboy]

damn right dude....old-school is still alive..... freestlye isnt as hard as it looks, if you want a few freestlye trick tips then you could try http://skateuk.5u.com/freestyletricktips.html or http://cloud.prohosting.com/bobackup/

[shaolin_sword36]

awesome thanks guys for the info and shit i'll check it out.

one thing i'm looking to do is old school grabs and shit off of this pyramid and on to the other side of the pyramid, though its only a half pyramid. i'm looking for old school plants and foot variations like rodney mullen does (or did) where he grabs the nose of the board and kicks a foot out to the side...any tips to do that one? or any other cool grab tricks and stuff?

[Ramp]