new cAMera yeah!!

[oldscoolelement]

nikon n75 with two sigma lenses, one 20-80mm macro, the other 70-300mm telephoto macro. all for 350$ plus shipping. good shit. cant wait to test it out and shit, but i gotta wait till christmas cuz my dad paid for it.

[muzz16]

idiot

the n75 is awful and you purchased non nikon glass which is a sin in itself... sigma glass produces crappy images, after mike and i gave you advice you just turned away without taking any of it in... now you're stuck with a piss poor setup which devalued as soon as you stepped out of the shop with it. now rather than being worth 350 its actually worth 200. You should have gone second hand my friend always second hand.

you will surpass the level of quality which that camera can obtain far too quickly and you'll regret buying it as you just wont be able to get rid of the bastard easily.

damnit kids today

[mikejl29]

Ohhh man... I think he just skipped over everything I ever wrote...


The N75 will be alright if you plan to shoot your friends sitting around or maybe some parties and pretty landscapes... but you will only be shooting skateboarding at night. Have fun with that. As for those sigma lenses... yikes... the EX series of them are OK... but you should have gone with manufacturers glass. Oh well good luck.

[muzz16]

I really dont mean to kill your buzz or anything... but you had a warning in advance by two people who made a mistake when first starting photography... both mike and I have purchased crappy cameras and have regretted it so we have both had to get a new one... i have an F3hp which was £210 with an MD4 which is amazing even if it does have 1/60th sync, mike will be getting an F4 which is even better he picked that up for around 400 quid... this christmas i'm probably going to make the step up to the F5 which is the best Nikon SLR... if i had had the information that we gave you i would never have wasted 250 odd quid buying a crap camera and would have probably got an F5 by now, you're just creating problems for yourself.

As mike said with the bad flash cross sync you'll have to get used to shooting at night or in really really cloudy situations else with a flash your pictures will become blurry or will end up with half a frame properly exposed and the other half in shadow.

oh dear, who knows you may hate it so you will have saved yourself money by buying an oversized paperweight.... oh yea if you're looking for a fisheye i'll be selling mine it's REALLY good...

[oldscoolelement]

well, i asked a friend of my sister, he's 40, and has been taking photos long before you were even born. he told me that the n75 is a great camera to start out with, which is what im doing, and that sigma lenses are good as well. i told him i could get the package for 350$, and he told me to go for it. so i think ill listen to him. and if its the flash thats the prob, ill BUY one. what kind of fish eye and how much, actually? i do want a fisheye, but i dont have alot of cash right now, so i might wait.

[muzz16]

I like the "the n75 is a great camera to start out with"... which is completely true but you're only starting out for so long what happens when you get pretty good and your camera is holding you back.

I have no doubt that your sister's friend knows a lot about general photography all mike and i were commenting on was that the camera is no good for skating....(and by the way i think i know a little more about that than this dude) it's more of a 'oh look, i have money to buy a camera with interchangeble lenses not just a point and shoot'... sigma lenses aren't all that they are not really that impressive for what you are planning on doing which i know is nature stuff... and as for you 'buying' a flash... no no really go ahead i'm sure it will solve the N75's x-sync problems if you spend enough who knows the flash could make it suddenly increase to 1/250th

look... i know plenty of pro photographers so dont give me any shit about how you know some random 40 year old guy who knows whats best. My photography course teacher who has been having stuff published for naigh on 35 years practically spat on my F65 until i wipped out my F3 then he had respect for me, coz i suddenly wasnt just a little kid who had run into jessops and gone 'hey that one looks purty pa!' he saw i had actually researched into it and asked for opinions.

Everybody that i have asked has said Medium Format is the way forward and I have to agree but money is a big problem there so i thought to myself get as good as possible on 35 mm then work my way up to a hassy later. You can't do that with a lower end camera.

oh yea have fun getting about 20% extra image too... the viewfinder doesn't show everthing thats going to be in the picture.

It's probably a good idea for you to buy a book as your technical knowledge isn't looking too smart at the moment.... so go get your dad to get you 'photography for dummies' so you can actually learn what the hell i'm on about and then maybe you can have a proper go at me without making urself sound stupid

[sugar muppet]

harsh words guys, harsh words

even my POS pentax is better!

[Snaker]

Those posts were too long for me to bother to read, but the N75 isn't a very good camera for skating photography.

[mikejl29]

Well at least he went Nikon..... partially.

[oldscoolelement]

like i sed, i wont be doing all skating,a dn i wont be doing skating pics till spring at least. so when i get good at photograpy, i could buy a new cam if i want.t but like i sed, im new at it, and i wanna learn on this camera, as i was told its a very simple camera to operate. also, tell em one reason WHY you absolutely positively NEED a flash for skate photos? i took some better then decent photos with an f100 or some old ass camera of my friends, like 8 years old. no flash. so why then cant you survive w/o a flash?

[sugar muppet]

you need a flash to get rid of those nasty shadows, the one's that cover part of the skater, or ledge or whatever, the ones that hide details. i struggle with 1/125 sync, so 1/90 will kill you, mike had 1/90 on his f65 and he hated it, so you will probably hate it too once you start getting into photography more

[Skate or Try]

maybe your 40 year old friend was jsut being kind....does he shoot skating? its quite a unique format ........(unless you compare it to sports...)

[oldscoolelement]

no not skating, but has done sports photot. and besides, a picture captes a moment in time, shadows and all, i dont give a **** if part of a ledge is covered

[muzz16]

my god you're stupid

[oldscoolelement]

oohp, flaming, warn him, i took offense to that statement. if i get warned for what im about to say and he dont, thjats bull

**** you, muzz. there aint no flash in real life, so i dont give a shit./

[muzz16]

how was that flaming i was articulating what everyone on here is already thinking.. i really do hope your photography goes well, who knows if you were normal i may have been able to help you ah well.

[PuNk_Uk]

hmm u chose wrong, u need flash my friend if u want fancy looking pics otherwise it will just be motion blurs, oh well u better getting saving up ur money

[oldscoolelement]

how will there be blurs if i use sports mode? i used that on my friends camera, and the skate shots came out fine. there is such a thing as SUNLIGHT and NATURAL LIGHT, a flash isnt always neccesay. the camera pops the flas and fires automatically if it senses that not enough natural light is present .

[muzz16]

ok jeez keep your panties on... the on camera flash is really good i completely forgot about that when i was having a go at you, u just dont need to buy a flash at all, the on board flash will be really helpful and make your pictures look brillo! Five thumbs up

ok, you are pretty dense so incase you didnt realise that was a joke, you wanna progress right? well if you ask any pro or read in any book it will say fill flash is a must, the on board flash won't cut it as it isnt manual so you're skate photos will most likely come out burnt or looking really bright along with the nature photos you want to take you'll obtain a localised area of light and it'll just look stupid.

for the nature stuff or whatever it is you're doing you'll probably need a ring flash to eliminate lens shadows of close ups and for skating you'll need at least 1 maybe 2 flashes so thats 3 and you definately cant afford to cheap out because it does matter when it comes to flashes.

the only type of photography where you can sometimes get away without using flashes is maybe black and white but that only really works when the situation is right

[sugar muppet]

Originally posted by oldscoolelement
there is such a thing as SUNLIGHT and NATURAL LIGHT, a flash isnt always neccesay. the camera pops the flas and fires automatically if it senses that not enough natural light is present .


but the camera is stupid, it's fooled my reflections, that's why you need a flash, most of the time ambient light isn't good enough, my guess is your lenses won't be useful in low light, as they'll be somewhere around f4 when open wide. even lower when zooming.

in broad sunlight, unless it's everywhere (coming from all angles) you'll have shadows, and unless you're shooting b+w you'll want to get rid of the shadows most of the time. so flashes are very useful

[flipside433]

ok ok ok end this stupid thread and leave oldschool be with his new camera

[zeronoah]

this thread is a month old dude.

[mikejl29]

Dude quit bringing up all of these old threads. Obviously the let him be with his camera. Stop bringing up old stuff.

[mfstlnick]

Yah, what he said!

[Freaky Styley]

congrats with ur camera dude..enjoy!

[oldscoolelement]

ah ha, mofo's, ive been using my camera, and the pics come out ****in good, so **** you all. and ive also landed a job doing sports action photography for this business nj sports media. so there, biiitch, there

[mikejl29]

Good work on your job... hang on.. what do you do there? Are you an assistant or card runner? Actually, I've never heard of them. Do you get credentials for big (or even small) events or something like that?

Of course someone can take a Nikon N75 and take perfectly excellent pictures. We just looked at it from the stand point of a skateboard photographer. If you feel like strapping a 70-300 to it by all means go right ahead. At 300mm you probably have an f-stop of f5.6 which is going to suck in the action sports photos. The DOF would be too great and you will see loads of other players in your background which people are not a big fan of. Now if they are supplying you with a D2h and a 300 f2.8... good work man. You have proved that the pros really do not need all that fancy gear to take pictures.

[oldscoolelement]

im not an assistant, im an actual photographer, and maybe youve never heard of em becuase you live in england, not new jersey, stupid. its not some big conglomerate, its a small privately owned business. if you want to go to the website, go to actionsportsphotosnj.com

[mikejl29]

And... which of the photographers are you on that site? Its def. not a big business. Its one guy, his son, and a stringer. Are you Corey then? Being the son of the business and doing the site for your dad is different from going out and landing youself a job. If you are... you might want to consider a little more tech on your password protection. For example.. the password to the Mahwah football game was helmet.

Oh yeah.. what gear are you shooting with besides your Nikon N75 at that job?

[mikejl29]

Uhh... I'm going to bump this because I'm actually interested in the answer.

[oldscoolelement]

im not the guys son, theres a few people includiung me who do free lance work. when i work with him, i usually use a digital cam, like a 4 or 6 megapixel, with no flash, and a 80-200mm lense. i have a 70-300 and a 28-80 on my n75. im not saying im gonna be the next atiba or ansel adams with my setup (thats the kinds of photog. im into, skateboarding, and landscapes), but the n75 works for me, it takes good pics, one is actually being submitted to a mag, my aunt works for it, so shes expiditing it or whatever for a contest this spring.

[sugar muppet]

a digital cam? shit, you could at least be specific. i'm so going to laugh at you if you're bullshitting. i'm also going to laugh, because in magazines competitions, employees families aren't allowed to enter.

80-200mm lens? no flash? usually for sports, you'd use a prime lens, normally something like a 300mm 2,8. so i'm calling bullshit on this.

[sugar muppet]

i just read back on your older posts, in the 2 about your job... you said different company names, nj sports media and actionsportsphotonj

hmm...

[mikejl29]

HAHAHA.. good catch on the names sugar muppet.

I would believe that he is using an 80-200 for basketball because Nikon makes 5 versions of their 80-200mm f2.8. The 300mm f2.8 would be good for football pictures for sure. From the looks of those basketball pictures... damn you really need to setup some strobes on your court. Tell whichever company it is that you want some strobes with battery packs to light up the key and you want pocketwizards or quantums to fire them.

Oh ya, in the latest bit of news on my photo life... I now have the funds to purchase a Nikon D70 when it becomes available!!! Score 1/500 flash sync.

[sugar muppet]

damn Mike... didn't you only just get a D100?

the D70 is hitting the market at about £850 right? or are you going to America to get it?

[oldscoolelement]

ok, actionsports nj and nj sports media are the same thing, when the biz was formed, it was action sports, but now its nj sports media cuz its not just pics. and i didnt do any shots for the basketball, i did a few hockey games for them. its a canon digital camera, i dont know exactly whart model, and guess what, the guy doesnt use canon glass, ooh, a sin i believ is what someone called it. and for the record, i dont vie a **** what you call, sugar mup, i know what i have done and am doing, so shut the **** up then, ok? ok.

[mikejl29]

I split the cost of a D100 with my dad... but the D70 is coming out so I am picking it up from canada for $1495.99 canadian body only. I'm going to be taking it with me to my summer job as a camp counsellor for kids with diabetes to put the camera through its paces.

[Ramp]